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Lake: Flaming Gorge Reservoir
River: Green River - Fontenelle to Flaming Gorge
Fish: Kokanee

just a koke questions

Post By: culinarypunk      Posted: 4/25/2015 10:27:42 AM     Points: 84485    
In one of the emails i received from the WGFD they talked about stocking 140000 koke fry below fontanelle dam.
The first thing that popped into my head was "how many will live?"
There are a lot of big fish in the river from the dam down to the gorge..
The idea of stocking them there, WGFD says, is to have them swim down to the gorge and then when its time to spawn swim back up and spawn so they can do an egg take.
well, yes, the fish will spawn where they were stocked (most of them) but that's a lot of obstetricals to over come for a fry.
i think ill go see how fat the trout are getting from the fry!

 Reply by: MAC ATTACK      Posted: 4/28/2015 1:15:27 PM     Points: 36650
The same procedure is done at Blue Mesa when they release the fry at the Roaring Judy fish hatchery. They make the 30 mile trek down to the lake and return 4 years later.

It's all a numbers game. More they put in brings up the ratio on returning fish.
 Reply by: culinarypunk      Posted: 4/28/2015 1:52:54 PM     Points: 84485
So this is normal and is the best or one of the best practices?

 Reply by: Flyrodn      Posted: 4/28/2015 3:03:49 PM     Points: 184622
For some species stocking as fry is the only viable option as the fish don't feed well on conventional fish food. Consequently it can be prohibitively expensive or impossible to raise them beyond fry in a hatchery setting.

As to having them swim back to the hatchery so eggs can be easily collected, this is a common practice for salmon species.

As to whether or not these are "best" I don't know. From my view protecting a "natural" spawn where it can exist is best, but that's not possible for many species we angler demand in our fisheries that are not native and have very specific requirements to successfully reproduce which are frequently lacking in waters they are stocked.
 Reply by: culinarypunk      Posted: 4/28/2015 9:25:23 PM     Points: 84485
they close from the dam down stream 4miles for the koke spawn .
back in Pennsylvania the bass are off limits for their spawn. Eyes also
 Reply by: Flyrodn      Posted: 4/29/2015 8:23:38 AM     Points: 184622
I wish more states would protect spawn for all species, especially on waters where maintaining the fish populations is possible through natural reproduction. I personally feel that's a better option for the fishery, although that approach doesn't always mesh with angler's desires.
 Reply by: MAC ATTACK      Posted: 4/29/2015 9:27:19 AM     Points: 36650
The taking of Kakanee is prohibited from the inlet of Blue Mesa all the way to the Roaring Judy ponds.

But that doesn't stop anglers from fishing for them and CnR the fish. And I could guess there are a lot illegally harvested from the river.
 Reply by: snowplowguy      Posted: 5/1/2015 8:38:48 AM     Points: 10
The waters from Roaring Judy is spring water, that is what the fry return to, everything from perch to lake trout eat them and a few feathered friends, the more spawn they get the happier the fisherman will be.