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WY bead fishing

Post By: culinarypunk      Posted: 3/20/2014 9:44:52 AM     Points: 84484    
This has been a hot topic thiis winter/spring.
A hook below the bead is illegal in WY because it does not hook
The fish in the mouth. Some say its a safe set up
because the fish won't swallow the hook. WDGF says
its snagging.

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Thoughts?
 Reply by: boogieman      Posted: 3/20/2014 10:47:59 AM     Points: 162    
Thank you! that info could have saved me a potential ticket. I have never used that method in wy, but in Colorado I believe it is not considered snagging ( if I am mistaken someone please correct me, some regulations are crystal clear, others unfortunately are written in a manner that requires interpretation)

personally it is my preferred way to use egg patterns. often when using small eggs with the hook imbedded in the pattern, i have gotten a lot of gut hooks (sad day), because the fish just seem to inhale them. i have yet to gut hook a fish using the bead method, and i have had very few foul hooks. most of the time the fish takes the bead in its mouth, and this places the hook right on the lip of the fish, resulting in a near perfect hook sets every time.

it is also super inexpensive, a pack of eagle claw hooks is 2 bucks, and ill buy a few at a time,( i donít always smash my barbs, but when using those cheap bait holders on the flyline with beads, smashing the barbs is essential, even the ones on the back side of the hook ), and depending on the beads you choose, they normally donít cost more than a few cents each. this sets up 40 "flys" for less than 15 bucks.

i guess ill just have to tie a little black or red thread on the bare hooks and call them flys. putting a chronomid, or midge pattern below the bead makes it a much more costly pattern to use. In the past when I have ran out of the bare hooks, I have used a small fly below the bead, and unfortunately it doesnít seem to work as well

just my two cents, hopefully others chime in
 Reply by: Steelhead      Posted: 3/21/2014 10:03:49 AM     Points: 465    
This is perfect example of govt intervention were it is not needed. Laws made by people that dont fish fly fish and havent a clue. Sad day for fish that would have been released but will more often than not, now will die. I blame obama.
 Reply by: culinarypunk      Posted: 3/21/2014 10:15:34 AM     Points: 84484    
Good responses guys.
I understand both sides of this. WY doesn't allow snagging and that means hooking them somewhere other than the mouth.

I don't use a bead or a long rod but I do use power eggs on a hook.
I will not just let it sit in the water. If I'm fishing a lake I slowly reel it in.
If its a river, I will let it drift and control my line. This way I am less likely
to deep hook a fish. Now is the like for me to use this set up.
(spring=spawn for bows and cuttbow)

Steelhead, a lot of the laws are made by people that have no clue because
they don't do it. Just like at a lot of jobs, rules and duties are made by pencil
pushers that have never done in or at most haven't done it in many years!

Pk Hunter, what's your feeling on this? I know you usr the long rod but do you use beads?
 Reply by: Hunter Hastings      Posted: 3/21/2014 9:10:47 PM     Points: 4097    
I have never used beads in fly fishing but broad definitions like this scare me. There are plenty of techniques out there such as spoons and jerkbaits that will have their fair share of snagged fish due to the erratic actions of them, so if snagging is what they are after then might as well go after those techniques. With my bass fishing background I have used a Carolina rig more times than I can count, so I will be wary of using a bead to peg my weight here in Wyoming from now on.
 Reply by: Hunter Hastings      Posted: 3/21/2014 9:15:58 PM     Points: 4097    
I would also be curious to see if they consider a blowback rig for carp a snagging technique