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The new to me boat

Post By: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: 6/10/2024 9:52:55 PM     Points: 11162    
Well I pulled the trigger and bought a new to me boat this year. My son and I made the track to Minnesota over the long holiday weekend. After truck camping and a near miss with a deer we made it back home. I bought a 2017 alumacraft trophy 175. It came with a 140 hp Suzuki. From what I can tell this boat shows no wear. The very nice people I bought it from said they bought it from a dealership. They used it for one week then it sat for 2 years.

This leads me to my question to you guys. What should my next steps be to get this on the water? The fuel tank is full but has been sitting for two seasons. I donít know if stabilizer was used. Iíve pulled the fuel filter and no water was found. Iíve got mixed advice on whether to just run the gas or dump it. What are some issues with running old gas I may face?

 Reply by: bhooker      Posted: Jun. 10, 10:06:08 PM     Points: 41
Oh I'm sure you'll get tons of advise on this outfit. Have you tried starting the boat. Hell if you don't want the gas I'll come and take it.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: Jun. 11, 11:15:22 AM     Points: 38106
I am admittedly an "over-maintenancer" .. But peace of mind is money well spent..

Especially if the gas in the boat was not ethanol free.. I would dump it asap. Even if it was ethanol free, it is quite old. They did you a favor by leaving it full as that cuts down on potential for condensation.

Get a cheap syphon and drain it as empty as possible, fill her up with ethanol free, and maybe a bit of seafoam just to be safe.

I'd also be changing the gear oil in the lower unit, and checking the batteries are holding a charge before heading out. I'd bet the trolling batteries are shot after sitting that long, Starting battery may be weak as well.

Run it on muffs in the driveway for a while, make sure she purrs.

Congrats on the new ride!
 Reply by: richw88      Posted: Jun. 11, 5:23:03 PM     Points: 68
I'm with Ajax 100% - great advice. Even if the gas has stabilizer, that stuff's only good for a year. Dump it and ALWAYS use the ethanol-free gas. The regular stuff will dissolve fuel lines and gaskets. It's fine for cars designed to use it, but not outboards, mowers, trimmers, any small engines.
And I ditto the muffs advice. I see people all the time start their outboard dry, and I just shake my head. It won't overheat it with a short run, but the damage to the water pump impeller is instant. Speaking of which, sitting for 2 years might have put a set in the impeller. If it tries to overheat or not circulate water well, that'll be why. A stiff piece of mono up the pee hole might be a good idea too.
Many auto parts stores will check your batteries for free. All they'll probably need is a good charge.
Good looking boat. Enjoy it.
 Reply by: James Woods      Posted: Jun. 11, 5:35:41 PM     Points: 517
Nice dude! Congrats on the new rig. If I have gas to take out of my boat I just unhook the line from the motor, line is long enough to hang below the tank. There's your siphon!
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: Jun. 11, 8:36:31 PM     Points: 11535
Drain that fuel and get you some fresh gas . . .a drain and fill of the lower unit lube and a good run up in the driveway with flush muffs . . .pay close attention to the motors "pee" hole . . .if it don't spray water strongly . . .impeller time.
YouTube will show you how to replace an impeller . . .it could be dried up and or twisted after all this time.Batteries . . .that's another story . . .I'd just get all new ones.
 Reply by: setzdahook      Posted: Jun. 11, 9:47:43 PM     Points: 69
Speaking of the "pee hole" (I'm being serious here) my boat sat here in CO one summer because i could not get out to use it... well some type if insect got in there and clogged it up bad. I did some snaking and spraying and the clog came out.
I recognize all the advice of all the people here on what to do with your new boat. I especially agree with change of lower gear case oil (simple diy with a little pump) and just drain that gas... nothing else should need do especially since they never even used it.
Like a brand new boat dude!
But also grease your trailer hubs!
And watch out for potholes!!! COLO 125 from Grandby to Rand just cost me a broken axle and a 1k tow job to Laramie. I would be more concerned about the crap CO roadways than any gas .....
Stetz- 12 year owner 16' Tracker
 Reply by: Goosehunter82      Posted: Jun. 11, 9:52:04 PM     Points: 77550
Nice rig Tyler! Congrats. I'm with the others I'd siphon it out or drain it out at least get as much as you can out and fill it up with ethanol free.
 Reply by: setzdahook      Posted: Jun. 11, 9:52:30 PM     Points: 69
No need to change impellers just cause it was in dry dock for a while after barely even used. No need to change everything.... just basic lower gear case, get fresh gas, and turn that beast loose!
Lot of worry warts here
 Reply by: setzdahook      Posted: Jun. 11, 9:59:25 PM     Points: 69
Killer boat dude... i'd take that boat in a heartbeat!
 Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: Jun. 11, 10:46:00 PM     Points: 11162
You guys are awesome. Thank you much great advice like always.

To add a couple of things. They did just replace the batteries before selling the boat so that was a plus. I will be just drain the fuel. I did start the motor up before buying. It was a little rough start but idled well and did pee water like it should.
I just got oil to change the gear oil. That is on the list too.

Bhooker - I will have 35 gallons of fuel for you come on over and get it. The motor does run.

Ajax - peace of mind is what Iím after. Thank you

Richw - thanks. I used to start my old boat in the drive before heading to the lake. I found out the hard way not to do that.

James- thank you

Dan- spot on like always. Thanks

Cisco - thank you

Setzdahook- thank you as well. I will remember to check the pee hole regularly. Unfortunately this boat will be sitting outside for the time being so bugs will be an issue.
 Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: Jun. 11, 10:50:52 PM     Points: 11162
One more thing this boat came on a roller trailer. I have never used a roller trailer. Any advice on these trailers? Dos and donts.? Iím a Lone Ranger or with my 7 years son most trips. This will be a learning curve for me.
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: Jun. 12, 1:38:17 AM     Points: 11535
My trailer is planks with center rollers . . . .way different than a roller trailer . . .find somebody with a roller only trailer and learn from them . .I would bring waders the first few trips out,till you learn hows the best way to load the boat on the trailer.My boat I drive right on the trailer (I had to learn how far out into the lake to park my trailer) . . .So I drive on the trailer or walk it on the trailer,then I hook on the winch strap and winch the boat up to the winch stand bumper,pull out of the water and get my inspection . . .you are going to want to get a transom saver for the gas motor . . .I like the kind that attachs to the trailer and the motors lower unit. . . . and be sure to get tie down straps on the back of the boat,holding the boat tight to the trailer.Nothing makes your heart skip a beat like hitting a killer pot hole and watching your boat bouncing around on the trailer.One last thing . . .winch stands can come in a bunch of styles . . .if it's not square steel tubing . .replace it.My trailer came with a "U" channel metal winch stand that I replaced with a square steel tub . .I can pull my boat on the trailer with my winch without the tube bending.Winch straps are cheap and easy to replace . .they get sun rot easy.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: Jun. 12, 10:33:38 AM     Points: 38106
They make a really awesome system for people that trailer and unload a boat solo. It latches onto the d-ring that you would normally attach the winch to. Also has a release mechanism with a rope, you can release the boat from the helm.

Also, add some of the tall trailer guide poles to the rear of the trailer. They are a life saver in a cross wind situation. Even better if you add red lights to the top of the poles for night time.

May be worth looking into!
 Reply by: Dakota Dude      Posted: Jun. 12, 11:49:54 AM     Points: 2573
There is nothing complicated about a roller trailer. The only trick with roller trailers is that you do not unhook it from the winch or the safety chain until its in the water. Some boat ramps are pretty steep, and if you hit your brakes too hard the boat can move. I either just step in the water, or do it bending over the front of my boat when the water is too cold.

Just like every trailer, it will take a little practice before you know how deep to back in. my general rule is to leave an inch or two of the wheel wells above water. Each ramp is a little different though.

When you put the boat on the trailer, don't try to ram it up to the stop. You'll miss it and cause damage, especially if its windy. Get it 3/4 of the way on the trailer. Then get out, and winch it in the last few feet. This way you can line it up perfectly, and its easy. You have rollers to do the work!

I've owned roller trailers for 20 years. Good luck and have a ton of fun!

 Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: Jun. 13, 10:12:05 PM     Points: 11162
Dan- I did put auto ratchet straps on the trailer. I had some in a drawer I never put on other boat. I will look into a transom saver. There is a stop for the tilt and trim Iím using. I will definitely do some research on those. I normally have the waders in the truck but I donít mind getting my feet wet. Specially in the heat. lol

Ajax - I remember seen videos of those launch and catch set ups. Pretty interesting. I have to look it up. I do plan on buy a drotto auto catch hitch. Most of my buddies have them and love um. The guide poles are on the to buy list. A half dozen trips will determine that choice.

Dakota dude- thanks for the tips. I Do try to take it easy loading. Iím not a big fan of running the boat up on the trailer. My old boat I would just get on the bunks and winch it up on the trailer. Half the time I would just pull the boat to the trailer from the dock with my ropes. The new boats a little bigger. That may be a little more of a challenge.

Pulling the gas out of this boat has been a challenge to say the least. All my attempts to siphon have failed. Iíve got an electric fuel pump from the Amazon on its way. Hopefully it does the trick.

Gear oil changed. Glad I checked that. It only had a half a quart of oil. That could have been bad.
 Reply by: Assassin      Posted: Jun. 14, 7:57:17 AM     Points: 1201
FYI if youre in NOCO, there is a weld county recycling center in Greeley that will take old gas and other hazardous waste at no charge for residential (at reasonable quantities).

I have never had a lot of luck siphoning old gas out. The hose always turns the wrong way, etc. The last try was on an ATV, and it ended up being easier to just take the gas tank off (not super practical with a boat obviously). Glad I did though, I had to clean the tank out, there were chunks of sediment etc. Really bad. If the gas doesn't look too bad then probably just get out what you can, but if it smells like varnish, you should definitely try to get it all out.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: Jun. 14, 12:09:58 PM     Points: 38106
Yeah! That Drotto thing is what I was referring to! Super slick setup!
 Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: Jun. 14, 2:18:51 PM     Points: 11162
Assassin- thanks Iím out east. Iíll check around the area and see if I can find a place. It does smell varishy from what I can tell. It did start up and run when I bought it but Iíll play it safe and replace it. Just got a fuel pump in so Iíll be working on that tomorrow.

Ajax - yea those are well worth the moneys. I was thinking you were talking of that rope systems that someone had posted a video of not too long ago. I would probably break that one first try. Haha.
 Reply by: JIGORNAUT      Posted: Jun. 14, 5:29:17 PM     Points: 327
I drained the fuel in my boat last year, I bought a small electric fuel pump from autozone, to drain it, worked beautifully.

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