SEDAN KILLING POTHOLES?

They repaved berthoud to winter park at the end of last summer, so you're good that far. I think there's a few potholes to watch for between fraser and granby.

is there even any safe ice up there?

Thanks for the intel. I had to stay very alert last spring to avoid some big uns---all the way in from the top of Berthoud. Funny return trip. Despite wearing long pants and sleeves, I was chewed by skeeters over my entire hands, face and throat in no time. Literally ran back to the car. A ton of them got in my car when I got out to go fishing and even more when I got back in. Drove at higher than recommended speed with all my windows down for a few miles when I had to apply calamine all over my face, throat and hands twice. I forgot about it when I gassed up in Winter Park. Lots of people seemed friendlier than usual. Big smiles all around. Thought the chicks were interested in me. Then I looked in the mirror!!

And yes I do believe the ice is still thick up there. Check out the North Park Anglers fishing report. Seems just like 11 Mile. Late ice-off with 16 inches still. Likely spooky now with slush and standing water on top. Just be careful. My 2 cents .

Almost forgot. Heres some intel. There is a Shell station just past Winter Park on the west side of the road that has premium gas with no ethanol. My cherry, low mile 03 Buick Century's love that stuff. The difference is very noticeable. I always fill it to the brim heading up and on the way home.

The skeeters at John are legendary, or at least infamous. I've been chewed up there a time or two myself. They are agressive little buggers.

SirGreg88, here's a list of stations in Colorado with pure gas/ethanol free gas.
Most Murphy and Maverick stations have ethanol free gas. I don't see the one listed for Winter Park, so you can add it to their list.
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Thanks. I hardly ever find those stations!!!

Just got back. There are some pretty bad ones from Winter Park ski area down to Granby. Stay alert from Granby to Walden. There are good stretches thru there but some are bad enough to end your trip.

Just an FYI,

The Conoco just before entry into Grand Lake also caries ethanol free gas.
Not cheap, but they have it.

Thanks for the info. Didn't realize there were that many places with ethanol free. Ethanol requires more energy to produce than its worth--worse for environment--not to mention worse mileage............BAD BAD..........