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Fish: Walleye

How long is your leader on leadcore

Post By: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 5:55:38 AM     Points: 10681    
So . . . .I dug around in my "I'll never use it" box and found some leadcore,a reel that will hold it and a rod from the mystery bin at Eagle claw . . . .I understand leader equals depth on the end of leadcore and feel 20-25 ft of mono is the answer.I'm fishing 5,6,7 in shad raps,Smash shad and other cranks . . . . . . .how long is your leader & what weight line/mono/or do you use?
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 6:04:15 AM     Points: 10681
B.T.W. I run a downrigger and long line/snap weight at this time and want to change the long line/snap weight to leadcore. On my downrigger I put the cranks back 30-40 ft behind the cannon ball.
 Reply by: fishingmanlee      Posted: 10/21/2022 8:07:02 AM     Points: 206
Good topic and I'll be interested in others' responses. I use about 72" of 12 lb mono. I use mono because it offers some stretch on an otherwise unforgiving system. The mono, however, floats and I question whether or not it defeats the purpose of the sinking line premise. I'm just learning lead tactics so anything else you all care to offer please divulge.
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 8:31:59 AM     Points: 10681
Fishingmanlee . . .having watched ytube vidios on lead core fishing . . .I never saw or heard anybody mention that mono floats or takes away from the lead core purpose . . . .let's see who/what else comes of that.I watched tons of vidios on lead core,but not one of them went into leader length or what to use for leader.
HP standing by for more folk's input.
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 8:38:12 AM     Points: 10681
I could not find any local vidio's on lead core fishing,but from my experiances here in CO . . .everything I am seeing on how to use lead core is great if you are on the great lakes,but use lead core the way they fish on the great lakes won't work here.There they are fishing over 100 foot water and deeper . . .here I'm looking at 50ft as the deepest.
 Reply by: fishingmanlee      Posted: 10/21/2022 9:13:42 AM     Points: 206
Mono floats, until it become saturated, for a while which is why it's ideal for top water fishing. Any other line will sink and ruin the action of TW baits. My only other experience with lead is fishing with my buddy and that's how he's been doing it for ever.
 Reply by: GSOutfitters      Posted: 10/21/2022 11:54:02 AM     Points: 545
We use leadcore a lot out here for trout and salmon. We use a 60-75ft 10lb fluorocarbon leader. The rods we use combat the near zero stretch factor of the leadcore/fluoro combo, which is very important for kokanee in particular.
The fluoro leader will help you gain depth because it sinks as well as its invisibility helps get bites too in clear water
 Reply by: sylvan      Posted: 10/21/2022 12:09:47 PM     Points: 12730
Hey Dan I fish 18 pound lead core in the spring at Cherry Creek and used 10 feet of mono as my leader Iíve talked to Nate Zelenskyy often about leadcore when I worked at bass pro shop and he uses exactly the same set up I hope this helps
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 12:13:18 PM     Points: 10681
More better Harry!
I am going to tie on 20 ft of mono and work my way down at Aurora.
 Reply by: Dakota Dude      Posted: 10/21/2022 1:10:27 PM     Points: 2531
I use 50' of flouro leader. 10 arm spands.
 Reply by: fishingmanlee      Posted: 10/21/2022 3:09:42 PM     Points: 206
With that much leader, how much line at an average 1.5 speed to get the bait down to 20'? With my 6' leader at a speed of 1.5 I need to let out about 110 feet.
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/21/2022 5:34:21 PM     Points: 10681
not to change the subject,but I tie my mono to the lead core by pulling the lead out of the braided for 2-3 inch's and then push my mono into to hollow center till it hits the lead center,then I tie a overhand knot as close to the end of the braid . . . .will this knot work with floro?
 Reply by: RogBow      Posted: 10/21/2022 6:16:49 PM     Points: 2697
I usually tie on about 30' of 10lb Sufix Elite. I don't really bother with fluorocarbon on it because when I am trolling for salmon it's pretty much a junkyard tied to the end anyway and have not really noticed a catch rate difference with walleye. I keep the leader that length so I can eventually turn around ok without crossing lines. That's the one thing about leadcore, it's a lot of line to handle, especially with other boaters around.
 Reply by: puntfish      Posted: 10/22/2022 5:05:56 PM     Points: 52
18 lb leadcore with a 15' fluorocarbon leader. Each color 30' goes down 5' at 1.5 to 2.0 mph.
 Reply by: Crit      Posted: 10/22/2022 7:17:50 PM     Points: 9
I donít do much leadcore fishing anymore but have always used 25 foot leader. And yes, the Willis knot is fine for flouro
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 10/23/2022 1:02:50 AM     Points: 10681
Crit . . . . . .I like your answers . . . . .25ft of leader is managable and the "Willis knot" has been a great knot for mono to leadcore and I look forward to using it on floro.
Thank you.
HP
 Reply by: Elrod      Posted: 10/24/2022 2:16:31 PM     Points: 112
Leaders on lead core are to give you something to tie to and something the fish may not see. I prefer flouro leaders. Lb test depends on your quarry and terminal tackle. A Dick Nite or Red Magic type lure for Kokes use 8-10 lb. JPlugs or Dr. Spoons for Macks, use 20-30 Lb. Length is more determined by lure selection. Lots of action, longer leader 10-12 feet. Spinner or small spoon, 6-8 feet.
 Reply by: fishman1      Posted: 10/25/2022 1:40:48 AM     Points: 13515
I've been fishing with lead core for 25 years. i have never used more than 10 ft. of leader. Not saying more leader isn't better or not. I've always used 18 lb. lead core. i attach my leader to the lead core with a tiny barrel swivel that will slide through the guides and into a level wind reel. i use line counter reels even though the line is marked with color changes every 10 yds. you inevitably will have tangles and will lose some of the lead core so you may end up with half a color to start with. I use lead core everywhere I fish because it follows your boat so well and i can control depth the best that way. I've actually trolled Antero with lead core and needlefish lures. only had out 40 to 50 feet out but we killed them that day.

Bill

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