Dog people

Good luck in Montana. There are to many people there too.

Wyoming's the place to go but they feel about us like we feel about Californians.

Confrontation may not be the best first choice.

At Lon Hagler these things happened. Confrontation, conflict. There are leash laws and rules so no they were not within their rights if Skippy is in the lake. Lon Hagler was on leash required at all times.

But ultimately at LH CPW, Berthoud and the local law could enforce the rules. Go write tickets.

But they chose to ban all dogs period.

Since it has also gotten over used I have not been back in several years. If they enforce no dogs or not I do not know. But that is the rule.

If they did not enforce rule A , I do not see why to expect them enforce rule B.

I hear you, rdailey, but I'm 51. 20 years ago, I would have asked the dude for a fight. 30 years ago, I would have just hit him. I'm too old to look for fights, but I'm also too old to put up with crap like that without saying something. If I get my ass beat over it, so be it.

You are literally a decade behind moving to Montana. North Dakota has excellent fishing.

Lon Hagler's problem is the people. I've never been there when the shorelines didn't have trash all over the place. I brought a bag with me and grabbed some stuff, but didn't put a dent in it.

Lon Hagler was nice even ten years ago. That whole Berthoud area has grown beyond belief. Lone Tree is basically gone. Too much pressure on a small place.

By 1000 yesterday morning Boyd was a zoo.

Try Jefferson Lake sometime. We went there about 5 years ago and there were fishermen every 5 feet, dog ? poop on the path and dirty, rolled up diapers on the path. Get there after 8 AM and the lots are full.

Confrontation can easily lead to violence. Lots of folks packing heat nowadays. I plan to fish for a few more years.

Yea, you gotta be careful these days about being confrontational, everybodies packing heat these days.

The problem in this state is that there is not even close to being enough lakes/water anymore.

I've been here since 1994, and no new lakes/reservoirs have been built, but the state has practically doubled in population. Hell, we've actually lost lakes since then.

The front range could use at least 3 more Pueblo sized reservoirs to take some pressure off...

Environmentalists and drought will not allow it. Watch damation by Patagonia and you will get what I mean. I fall somewhere in the middle. We shouldn’t dam every river but we shouldn’t starve for water either. It’s always a give and take. Pray for rain and pray that we don’t lose the sportsman conservationist. Many people are very opinionated on both sides. There is no magic bullet. We all have to appreciate what we have and realize there are more and more people who are doing the same. Yes there are the deadbeats and yes there are the people with extremely lofty expectations. There is a balance there, but finding it is gonna take divine intervention. Ok soap box vacated.

You could call have taken a photo and then called in and reported them.
Dogs are supposed to be on leash at all times.

I am not in the least concerned about violence. Yes, plenty of people packing heat. I'm one of them.

Oddly, the dog was on a leash, but the sign to my left clearly said no swimming or wading. No need to turn take his picture or turn him in. Besides, turn him in to whom?

I said what I feel he needed to hear and have zero regrets about it.

My 2 cents.
Late to the party.
Bizkits Dad, I'm with 100% . If no one tells people they are doing wrong, how do they know they are doing wrong.

And not all people CC. Their are more now than before.

As far as building more reservoirs, You have to own the water first.

This is a me first world now.

Reservoirs are smart ways to store water instead of letting it run down stream never to be used. They are building a new reservoir for Denver. It'll be called wild horse reservoir and it'll be between antero and spinney to the west.. south of Hartsel.

Wapiti. You just opened a whole new can of worms. HAHA!!!

Chimney Hollow Res. west of Carter should be starting actual work soon from what I recall. Then Glade Res. and Galeton Res. are two in proposal phases. These are all North Colorado projects.

They can build all the reservoirs they want we are still going to run out of water. Tear a house down build a 20 person unit all day long. Good news is another lake for the paddleboarders to take over.

It's a dam shame that people only think of themselves, I don't mind dogs but if you don't control it then we have a problem. As far as people packing Heat, that doesn't scare me at all, cause it's all for show, you pull it on me and I promise you don't use it you, will receive one hell of a beat down. Don't give in to these self centered asses, I don't and I'm 61

theres a lot of inconsiderate people in the state nowadays...i would have just walked off.....ive had people try to push me off spots and people be insanely rude and invade my space tons of time....its the new colorado.....

hell ive had a whole family of spinner fishermen come up uand fish 5 yds away from me while i was fly fishing...their lines completely going through my drifts and everything...i just tdidnt say anything and procceeded to catch fish infront of them until they left skunked (note that this happened in wyoming)..ive honestly had this happen with spin fishermen probably half a dozen times on rivers, i truly love seeing them get skunked as they whip lures through a run im fishing while i continue to hook up n land fish....

ive also had a guy steal my friends spot we were fishing on the river (we were 10yd apart n this guy just hopped in between us)..when i asked wtf he was doing he claimed to not speak english....this was on a freestone river in colorado..plenty of space

ive also had a guy walk straight through a run i was fishing as ii was standing there changing flies on a tail water..

as others said..definitely behind on moving to montana (and idaho, oregon etc for that matter) lol! good luck..i just ignore most the asshats nowadays..theres so many out that if you let every one frustrate you youre gonna be angry 24/7...theres tons of poor outdoorsmen and inconsiderate folks out there