Post By: MOJO Posted: 5/3/2021 4:09:45 PMPoints: 450
On Thurs 4/29 I decided to be lazy, not canoe and enjoy some shore fishing at Antero's N shore. I noticed a young guy ahead and placed myself about 100 away. Later, an older couple arrived and, intent for his spot, positioned literally 25 ft from him. What I did not see was another couple on the other side of him, that obviously sent him over the edge because at 10:30, he proceeded to scream at the top of his lungs about human garbage and getting a 12 ga, etc. and immediately packed up and left, of course, screaming the entire time. The deputy arrived about 15mins later and asked what was up. I told him what little I knew and heard nothing about it later. So much for anyone's harmony that was in the vicinity that morning.
I am not condoning his lack of self control, but as we've all seen, some folks just do not get it and position with zero consideration. That is going to push the weak, way over the edge.
This is my own personal opinion MOJO. This whole pandemic thing is pushing a lot of people who were teetering on the edge anyway . Off the deep end. Lots of people are depressed to a degree and stir crazy from staying at home way too much . Point in case. I live in a quiet middle class neighborhood . Been here over over 20 years . Never any big issues ,till this year. A few blocks away . Some 20 something year old kid ,staying with his grandparents. Lost it . Stabbing his dad , grandmother, and grandfather . Killing his Grandad. Iím not a believer in coincidence .
Reply by: Ryan Posted: May. 3, 9:43:22 PM Points: 2449
The pandemic is absolutely one of the main causes of increased participation in outdoor recreation activities. I for one hope that it is temporary, but I'm not holding my breath.
Regardless, neither the pandemic nor someone "encroaching" on "your spot" on a public lake is reason to go off like that. In todays world, if someone starts talking about breaking out a 12 gauge, it has to be taken very seriously.
Reply by: badextracab Posted: May. 4, 9:06:11 AM Points: 74
About 4 yrs ago, at hobert point at mile, couple morons came an took over my spot on shore, i was by myself, man i was Pissed, after a while i just left, and i gave them my left over crawlers, an shrugged it off, but man i was Pissed.
Reply by: 3wayfisha Posted: May. 4, 10:37:30 AM Points: 278
Its public land and water, so its something you just have to deal with. Ive had this happen on rivers and lakes multiple times, literally had people hop in between me and my buddy, people steal spots, its ridiculous. I snapped on an old guy once exclaiming "id expect this on a tailwater, but not here, what do you think youre doing?" he claimed to not speak english. He proceeded to fish the spot I had been in for the next 6 hours.
Ive realized you just have to shrug it off...nothing you can really do if someone wants to push you off a spot
I also think a lot of people have never combat fished like whats done on salmon rivers in alaska (or even certain holes on tailwaters in CO)..and when people get close they snap. But ya this guy sounds like he totally went off the deep end n he needs to get off his high horse..it is all public land
Recently had a whole family start fishing spinners right next to me on the North Platte in Wyoming....their retrieve was crossing over half the line I was drifting my flies in...but I didnt say anything and just timed my casts and drifts with theirs and all was well..although I was a bit peeved. Ofcourse they didnt catch any fish and left after 30 minutes. Just gotta deal with it.
Also lets be real....its antero.......not some lowkey lake lol...I feel youre liable to have this sort of thing happen at any lake that is even somwhat well known. Had so many people creep in to 10 yds while ice fishing too at popular lakes. A lot of people are just scared to try/find new spots
Reply by: 007 Posted: May. 4, 11:36:20 AM Points: 71
As more new anglers hit the waters, its pretty clear lots of folks have little understanding of the norms of angling, particularly when it comes to space. Lots of folks who grew up in the east have an image of trout fishing that is shoulder to shoulder along the reach as the hatchery truck pulls up and 25 yards is space for 5 more people. While difficult to do, particularly when trying to relax, the more seasoned anglers should (attempt) to demonstrate proper behavior and speak directly but respectfully to people who roll up right on you. Ive had a couple experiences where I found myself fuming, but found a quick chat, "Hey man, I was hoping to have a little more space here, anyway we could give our selves some more room?' This works on boats and on shore. Follow it up with a tip about whats working and its a an easy path... Deranged verbal threats are not the way...
I think we have all been in similar situations with all of the new people out there fishing these days. Itís just something we are all going to have to get used to unfortunately. Who knows if it was those particular people sitting so close to him or something entirely unrelated that set him off.
I recall I was in a similar situation back in August at Jefferson lake. I was fishing alone from shore when a multi-generational family set up about 20 feet from me. One lady even had her paddle board with her. It was irritating.
After a while I noticed the two little boys in the family werenít catching anything whereas I was catching fish left and right. I walked over to their father and grandfather and suggested that they try the type of bait I was using.
The boys being boys scampered off to check out the woods with the men leaving their mother and another man to watch their rods. They used the bait I suggested and sure enough a fish bit. The mother called for her boys. They were just out of earshot so she asked me if I could hold the rod because she didnít know what to do. I held the rod and then handed it to one of the boys with the fish still on when they came running up. The boy looked up at me so I told him ďHe is all yours son.Ē He was so excited. He started to reel in the fish and with a little coaching from his father and grandfather landed a nice rainbow trout.
The boy looked at me with a look of accomplishment on his face. I told him good job and went back to my fishing. We started chatting it up swapping fishing tips and tricks, pick up trucks, and so on. The look on that boyís face made my day. I canít recall having a more fun time. Itís all in what you make of it I suppose.
Reply by: Barnacles Posted: May. 5, 11:00:46 AM Points: 640
Last week a guy threatened to shoot a hole in my boat. I've been fishing 50 years, and I've never had a conflict & never got tangled up with anyone. Maybe I was too close to his lines. I just wanted to cast by a boulder. It was a stealth approach with a trolling motor. I don't think I did anything wrong. It's still bugging me days later. I'm glad I was able to handle it peacefully & back off. I'm still trying to learn to have class like Cat. I probably should have bought the guy a 6 pack & taught him how to catch fish without green marshmallows. Part of me wants to go back and teach him some manners though.