Post By: tfotrout Posted: 4/7/2021 5:53:50 AMPoints: 1551
I m going to try and get out on antero at ice off. Planning on using my 8wt. Question is, what do yíall use for a leader with the chance of getting into a bigger fish? Looking for recommendations on a good leader/tippet for this lake . Also chromonids are my go to lake fly, thatís where Iím going to start. Any recommendations on some other flies to bring up there? Thanks
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: Apr. 7, 6:55:58 AM Points: 5911
8 wt is pretty stout, it will work but a 5 or 6 is easier, if you have one. I personally fish 1X down to 3X leaders in 7' to 9' lengths. I 've not had a problem with leader shyness of the fish, in all of the SP lakes. Leeches /wooly buggers, scuds, chironos are all popular, I prefer larger bugs 8-14 size Dry flies I will go to a 3x leader especially in clear water. Change colors or bugs if your not getting bites. I use 6# flourocarbon as my tippet material, Hope this gives you a start.
Reply by: SirGreg88 Posted: Apr. 7, 7:17:48 AM Points: 74
Listen to Anteroman. He is spot on. There are guys who go with the extra light tippets and teeny tiny flies but I much prefer the 6# fluorocarbon and nothing smaller than a size 14. I am more of a fly and half filled bubble guy anymore but same principal.
Reply by: tnhj Posted: Apr. 7, 11:28:12 AM Points: 51
Antero can be tough off shore at ice off. Its a lot easier in a boat. One day hot the next the dead sea. I generally can tell what kind of day its going to be after a few hours. Spinney is a little more consistent if Antero isn't and that's where I end up if Antero is off. I use a 5wt and static nymph rigs, most ice off Stillwater patterns work.
tfotrout - Like you, my favorite rod for the South Park lakes is an 8wt St Croix Avid. I have a 5wt and a 6wt, of which I may use if there is no wind... ha ha! no wind at Spinney or Antero! That's funny. Especially if you are fishing from shore. I like to find the shoreline where the wind is in my face, which means all the food is being blown in that direction. The 8wt slices right through the wind with no problem. If you are floating, then the lighter rods are fine. I do okay going down to a 4x tippet in the spring. I agree that these fish are not too line shy. It's in the summer that I beef up the tippet, because the fish go straight for the weeds, plus I want to get them in quickly due to the warm water temps. In addition to what has already been mentioned, you may want to try marabou micro jigs (1/64 oz.), suspended from a strike indicator. All the usual colors, black, purple, brown, green, chartreuse, etc. My favorite chironamid fly is a snow cone... white bead, black body, gold or silver ribbed.
8 wt will work fine, although I generally use a 7 wt in the wind, or, this year the new 6 wt I got recently seems to cast a bit better than my 7 so . . . jury's almost in on that, may change my mind in a month or so. Pretty much 3X tippet is go-to for me, can get 8 or 8.5 lb breaking strength in fluoro versions. I use 1X or 2X leaders, tie on 3X fluoro to the end.
As for flies, if you're into bobber rig fishing, I've done well a number of times with a brown or black (ie., "dark") beadhead leech pattern a couple feet above a snowcone chironomid, size 14 or a short shank 12, all 3-4 feet under a bobber. Tie the chironomid tippet piece to the eye of the leech to help with hookups and less chance of a leech-hooked fish dragging the chiro through some stuff that ends up pulling the leech hook out backwards if the chiro was tied to the leech's hook bend. Use non-slip loop knot to the chironomid, helps to allow more wiggle motion to mimic that naturals, particularly in the chop.
Alternatively, a balanced leech on the bottom, and a chiro or other nymph tied off on a short dropper a couple feet above. Two leeches, regular on top (again, eye to eye tie-ins for both tippet sections) and balanced on the bottom have also worked well some days when the chiro's were not on the fish menu.
I was surprised to learn how well chiro's can work right at and after ice-out since I've never noticed any hatching midges then, would be interested to hear other's theories on that.
Thanks, Freestone, have not tried the Palomar knot for droppers, might have to give that a try. I mainly use plain clinch knots just because I can do them fast and not waste much tippet. And I use non-slip mono loop knots for the most part for bottom flies and droppers.