Post By: malty falcon Posted: 4/3/2021 11:24:13 AMPoints: 7226
I am a fisherman, and I like to do things my way. But in scrolling through different fishing "Groups" on FB, there are a lot of people asking "how's the ice?", or should I go to Lake X?", or "where's a good spot to catch lots of fish close to my house in Arvada?" Or my LEAST favorite, "Taking my son (grandson) and looking to get into some good fish." These are "Bite Chasers", and it is a new and weird phenomena.
What is wrong with these people? How lazy is this generation of fishermen? The internet is full of information, just do a search for it! We now have to pixelate the backgrounds in photos, because some folks idea of searching for a Hot Bite is to go to the spot where you or I caught a nice fish last week.
My new buddy James told me "bite chasers" are following professional guides around on the ice and in boats to steal their secrets. I'll admit to following one guide sometimes, but he's a friend, and I try to ask if I'm too close, or if his clients are "cool" with me being nearby.
I've always shared my triumphs with fellow fishermen while out on the water when they act respectfully. But if you motor over to me when I'm hooked up and start casting over my spot, I'm not gonna be polite. I will continue to pixelate the backgrounds if the spot is small.
Fishing is often about exploration, and learning, and just being outside for awhile. Believe it or not, I often go fishing in inclement weather to places with little action, just to be alone in the wilderness. I don't recall any Bite Chasers reporting about their success, or sharing any useful information after their chase is over.
It sucks and it is more and more common every year. I have ppl comming up and marking my holes while im still sitting on them. They then show up the next morning and camp the spot for days til it quits. Folks in boats trolling so close to you that you can see their baits on your finder. Some just come up a rods legth or so away and start fishing with 8k plus acres with no other boats around. These ppl dont even try to find their own bite.. They go straight to someone else in order to mooch off the bite they may or may not be on. Sickening!
Im usually excited for ice out and early spring bites but not looking forward to being chased around by all the idiots and moochers.
shmilley, Same holds true for bank fishing! If youíre catching something, I guarantee thereíll be somebody in your back pocket! Some folks just donít get it. I guess itís the ďage of entitlementĒ...if youíre successful, everyoneís entitled to intrude and share in your success. Pitiful!
Never thought about that. I'm fairly new here. I have to admit I've found so much good information on this site. CPW notes on each lake, old lake reports. Everything helps. I take pride in finding my own secret places & usually happy to share when I find one (after I'm full). The search is half the fun for me. Most of the bite chasers just don't have time for the quest. I'll push old ladies down in the mud to get one more crappie, so I'm probably a lower form of human life. Using kids is a crafty move. I'll have to remember that one to see if I can hijack a yellow perch hole from Goose or Team COFF next winter!
In the water. That's the answer. Am I a bite chaser? I guess that depends. I don't go chasing folks fishing holes, but I do like to chase the bite based on times/tides/conditions and such...not exactly the same thing.
I know where I'm fishing tomorrow for example, but not because of a recent report. Based simply on time of year. I've had success in that particular body of water every year around this time so I'm going to go try my luck again. Will I succeed? Who knows. Am I going anyway, you bet yer butt I am.
I'll admit to seeing a report or a nice fish out of a lake and go to that lake though, just to see if I can find one too. I'm not one to ask where you were on the lake, or what you were using. If you post a conditions report and it is a good one, I'll go check out the lake if it fits the mood I'm in. I don't think I've ever gone chasing after a hot bite though. I fish EVERYWHERE in the state, and if you post a conditions report on a lake I like, I might go there. Sometimes just because I haven't been there in a while. ESPECIALLY if it's one I don't get to often. Like J-mart or BM. Sometimes though, I'll just get a style of fishing in my head and pick a lake that lets me have some chance of success with that style.
So yes, but no I guess. I steer clear of crowds at lakes anyway, and with the whole covid thing that goes double....so you don't have to worry about ME in your back pocket, or marking your holes. (Besides I still haven't really figured out the waypoint function on my fish finder anyway.) I will admit to being crowded out of a spot before though, so yes they ARE out there. I'm not about to go to jail for "defense of a fishing spot". Due caution of course though, hard to identify backgrounds and all. I don't mind sharing with a select few, but the general public needs to work on etiquette first thanks.
Iíve always been pretty liberal with my fishing information if I know the person or know theyíve been trying to catch at the lake Iíve been fishing at. Iím the same way as you guys with the ďtaking my kid for the first time ď with no points or very few points beside their name. Itís just the way people are now days. They want someone else to do the work for them. Just like at the grocery store. The drive up service is great for people with physical restrictions that keep them from getting out of their car and going into the store. The night before the last big storm I needed a few things so I ran up knowing it would be a zoo. There were 22 cars plugging up the isles in the parking lot waiting to pull in and have their groceries delivered to their door. I parked went in the store and it was almost deserted. When I left the same cars were still sitting in the isles , engines running waiting for a spot in the pickup parking spots. And Iíll bet 3/4 of them are the ones that turn their noses up to the oil and gas industry in this state. Ok I feel better now..
A bite chaser? This has no meaning to a true fisherman. Weird! Meet people. Talk to people. You would be amazed what you can learn. That is and will always be the only way to find success in various waters. Many folks nowadays just can't comprehend what they are told or how to adjust. It all very simple as we know, and thus we will always call it fishing. Fish On! 🐟🐟🐟🐟
Reply by: shmiley1 Posted: Apr. 4, 1:07:41 AM Points: 2661
When approached respectfully, i am generally pretty quick to help folks out. Not only share a spot but prolly the lucky lure and even show you how to use it. I have met alot of my fishing friends this way.
Last spring we do the usual routine, and as usual this hot spot starts to get crowded. When this happpens i always move out well away from everyone else and just jig. My boat, Waynes boat, Eds boat, Kims boat, didnt matter.. We were surrounded by 4-6 boats everytime and next to none ever even waved or said hello. They also watched us land LOTS of BIG fish while i saw next to none of them catch anything. They would get closer and closer but would never say a word. It could have been a very different day for some if they were just a little more respectful.
Something else ive noticed alot, many folks have this sort of thing happen and do not appreciate it. So many let it go and give the offenders no indication that it bothered them. I feel by doing nothing at all these offenders feel more justified in their behavior. You prolly dont need to be as rude as i get about it, but letting them know it wasnt appreciated might prevent 1 or 2 from doing it again. A few are truely clueless.
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: Apr. 5, 9:29:03 AM Points: 5911
Good thread Malty, I at times, feel your "pain".
Fish hard, maintain your tackle, cover water, find a place you like and learn it, change baits, watch the water for signs, always watch the weather, don't crowd fellow anglers, be prepared for the unexpected, and have fun.
If you do these things you'll have a good chance of being successful.
I will never read articles, follow facebook groups or watch Colorado YouTubers to find spots to go fish. Even reports on here sometimes say fishing is slow, then I end up going to that body of water having a good day. I love finding out on my own where the fish are located and what their biting on. The fish are not always in the same spot wanting the same lure day to day, week to week.
I don't mention the name of the lakes but most of you that have watch any of my videos know where I'm at. I will say every-time I have gone to the lakes I've done well at I don't see people most of the time in those spots. It's a bit different in the metro lakes since they are quickly accessible. I don't mind sharing what worked to catch my fish when someone asks, but I do my best to find lakes that are bigger and distance my self as much as I can. IF i catch a bigger fish i do my best to stay quite and not scream out of excitement.
I wold encourage those bite chasers to spend a day out soak in the outdoors and challenge your self. :)
Hereís a thought. If youíre catching fish somewhere how about NOT posting it on social media? Way too many lazy turds that donít wanna put in the work to catch fish on their own as it is why help them? What happened to just simply lying about catching fish? Thatís what I do lol.
Reply by: devon234 Posted: Apr. 6, 12:52:32 AM Points: 168
i have certain places i go at certain times of the year and i have been doing that for the past 20 years so im usually always successful. ive caught 14 lb lake trout and then in the same month i catch a 5 lb largemouth. i dont really need to hear about what people say about how much fish they caught i pay more attention to the time of year and the weather. when i put those two together i know where to go and what to fish for. your pretty much describing 90 percent of the fishing population. im 27 so i dont know if i count in the generation your talking about but i know what works what i need to use in a given spot for that time of year. i went to a lake in southwest colorado that i knew had pike in it for the first time and knowing the time of year and the weather conditions that we would have a good chance at catching some and sure enough we did nothing huge but a few 5-6 pounders in a couple of hours.
Reply by: devon234 Posted: Apr. 6, 12:55:55 AM Points: 168
and i also go out of my way to not be around people because where there is more people there is worse fishing. i feel sorry for the people that are confined to denver becuase your missing out on alot of great fishing without crowds and basically cidiots
Rogbow, I really am. Every Saturday morning when we get together to ride out east or west I say good morning ďlegendĒ. Heís been my mentor for 3 years now and has become a best friend. Only fisherman I know that can figure out the bite in one afternoon.
I suppose that I could be considered a "bite chaser", but not only out of laziness. After being off the water for almost two years following a c6-c7 disk first hurneating, then fully rupturing and necessitating surgical intervention. After that long a time not fishing, it's nice to know where to catch something besides those pesky dam stocker trout that are so awfully common amongst local waterways. People who know me irl (theres a handful on FE) know I'm a reasonably skilled fisherman and "bite chasing" is just something I'll need to do for a few weeks until I regain my sea legs so to speak.....
I agree there is some "bite chaser" in all of us. Of course we chase bites, the tug is the drug dangit! But to the extent that I crowd someone out, or cross lines? Heck no, NEVER.
Will I fish a popular spot? Yeah, we all do at one point or another. My opinion is the fishing reports on here shouldn't share if you caught or not, but what the actual conditions are. I actually USE that part of the reports to decide my destination for the weekends activities. (and the weather and wind forecasts) I could care less if you caught 300 slimers, or a 50" lake trout, or whatever.
I want to know what the water temp is, what the clarity is like, what insects might be hatching and if there are other factors that might affect what I chose to fish for, or with. I have fishing ADHD anyway. If what I'm using doesn't work, I'm likely to change it pretty quickly.
Take this weekend for example. I'm planning to head out east to my personal favorite mudhole. Fishing is "slow" according to reports. Do I care? NOPE, I'm going anyway because the conditions are close to what I like from that particular lake....as long as the weather cooperates I intend to have a great day. If I catch some, awesome, if not...it will STILL be a great day.
I don't fish to eat. I don't fish to brag. I don't fish to compete. I don't fish to earn my living. I fish to relax, to enjoy the outdoors, and to take my mind off the rat race. If I happen to catch something, all the better. I'd fish in a rain puddle, if I thought there might be fish in it! I've fished stock ponds just because they looked "fishy" to me.
I know my future conditions reports will interest ME...maybe not the "bite chasers" so much. Perhaps we should all consider doing the same? JUST the conditions we noted, not what we caught, not how we fished.
Example: Water level: full and open. Water is greenish, visibility 3 feet. Little wind. Noted new vegitation growing along the banks, and small minnows swimming around it. Water Temp was 107 where I was.
That combined with what I know about a lakes inhabitants would tell me if I want to fish it or not. (and they'd come pre-cooked)
Well said sir! If most people had that mind set they wouldnít think if it as bite chasers. I use to see all these videos and still see some of 50 to 60 stocker caught and then see most people flee to those waters and suddenly they just know the fish are there to be caught. CPW has a site thatll tell you all that. Just never understood why showing and chasing a bite for fish that would eat anything because their coming from a hatchery would be fun to watch or chase.
This is why every week I find my self chasing different fish species and trying waters I normally am challenged at. I donít watch any one or roam social media to go to a lake someone posted pics or video at I go to opposite and go to a water that tests me angler abilities. Example being... Barr Lake I hear is difficult for I figure out and catch fish at and that alone gets me really interested, so maybe a few weeks from now thatís what Iíll fish.
For me my videos are meant to be entertaining and if people find them educational be it but they are my memories to when I grow old I can look back at what me and Paul did. :)