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Post By: Goosehunter82      Posted: 2/22/2021 4:37:36 PM     Points: 59720    
A lot more licenses being sold this year.
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 Reply by: Splatteman      Posted: Feb. 22, 5:09:07 PM     Points: 65    
We can only hope that CPW spends all that extra money wisely. Maybe stock a few more fish in the next couple of years.
 Reply by: chickengeorge      Posted: Feb. 22, 5:13:34 PM     Points: 15    
That includes you too buddy.
 Reply by: gr8 Nourdeek      Posted: Feb. 22, 5:26:12 PM     Points: 12    
The DOW has made it mandatory to buy a fishing license in order to put in for a big game license and to use state owned hiking trails. I'm sure the number of extra licenses in accurate but I wouldn't apply them all to the amount of people fishing, also I'll bet fishing licenses for 2021 will increase by 25% just like hunting licenses.
 Reply by: phidoux      Posted: Feb. 22, 7:28:04 PM     Points: 6343    
That's just the number sold. How many more are out fishing with out a license? I can count the number of times I've been checked on one hand in the 42 years I've been in Colorado. If they aren't going to check them why buy one. I've been check more in Nebraska while camping and fishing than here in Colorado. Yes I buy one in Colorado every year along with a second rod stamp.
 Reply by: VolcanoSteve      Posted: Feb. 22, 8:12:37 PM     Points: 59    
Well, that's the great dilemma, isn't it? More people fishing means more people who will value fishing and vote accordingly. But, more crowds, more litter, more damage.
 Reply by: SGM      Posted: Feb. 22, 8:22:52 PM     Points: 14865    
Wow thatís a bunch, more than I would have guessed. As stated I hope that money goes back into the lake.

Phidoux, I agree with you. I think CPW could double their budget at Pueblo alone with over limits and under size fish fines.

gr8 Noutdeek, not sure where you got your info but it is not correct. A fishing license alone does not qualify as a qualifying license for big game hunting. It must be a fishing/small game combo, a small game license etc. See page 6 #4 for the rest of the list. Also hunting licenses from 2020 to 2021 went up roughly 2.6% not 25%. Deer in 2020 was $40.24, for 2021 the fee is $41.28, elk $55.43/$$56.88. Annul fishing license was $35.17 in 2020 for 2021 the fee is $36.08. Extra rod stamp 2020 was $10.87 now $11.11 for 2021.
 Reply by: riper69      Posted: Feb. 23, 8:17:38 AM     Points: 1381    
More money you would think they would put more officer's on the ground
There were people at gmr yesterday that had tip ups everywhere and fishing with 2 rods. Hundreds of feet away from each other.
This is not michigan 2 lines per person.
I passed plate numbers to division of wildlife
Can't let that stuff fly
 Reply by: rdailey      Posted: Feb. 23, 8:48:21 AM     Points: 1146    
Is this true?

The DOW has made it mandatory to buy a fishing license in order to put in for a big game license and to use state owned hiking trails.

I find that hard to believe.
 Reply by: ronco      Posted: Feb. 23, 1:28:11 PM     Points: 83    
Yes, it's true. Read about it here

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 Reply by: FXA0      Posted: Feb. 23, 1:49:24 PM     Points: 165    
^ From that link, it says you need a "qualifying license" for "for the big game primary draw or secondary draw." It also says that a fishing license does not count as a "qualifying license":

Does my fishing license count as a qualifying license?
No, fishing licenses do not count as qualifying licenses

Here is the list of qualifying license:

Which licenses count as qualifying licenses?
Resident and Nonresident

2021 annual spring turkey license
2021 annual youth spring turkey license
NEW in 2021 annual fall turkey license (valid for the secondary draw ONLY)
NEW in 2021 annual youth fall turkey license (valid for the secondary draw ONLY)
2021 annual small game license
2021 annual youth small game license

Resident Only

2021 annual resident combination small game/fishing license
2021 annual resident senior combination small game/fishing license

PS: I fished 4 times in Colorado last year. If you don't want to be crowded, do your part and stay home. :)
 Reply by: gr8 Nourdeek      Posted: Feb. 23, 3:13:52 PM     Points: 12    
My apologizes, for the miss information, I agree that all the extra revenue is a great thing!
 Reply by: mxtsinclair      Posted: Feb. 23, 4:37:15 PM     Points: 172    
I think we might also be confusing the fishing/hunting license required to access SWA/SLT's.

That is relatively new and could also contribute to an inflated number of sales vs actual fishermen. Seeing as how you need a hunter safety card to purchase a hunting license, I assume most people will buy a fishing license if they intend to do neither at an SWA/SLT, such as Hiking/Camping/etc.

From the CPW website: "A valid hunting or fishing license is required for everyone 18 or older accessing any State Wildlife Area or Colorado Parks and Wildlife-leased State Trust Land, effective July 1, 2020."
 Reply by: panfishin      Posted: Feb. 23, 4:41:49 PM     Points: 8415    
my question for this year will be how many of the additional 94K people will be buying again and going out as things potentially open back up this summer?
 Reply by: ronco      Posted: Feb. 23, 4:59:46 PM     Points: 83    
AO, you're correct. I've bought the small game/fishing license for so long that I consider it one license rather than 2 separate licenses.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: Feb. 23, 6:44:02 PM     Points: 31575    
Outdoorsman Wants more enforcement and resources - CPW needs more money

CPW needs more money - increases license sales - CPW makes more money - outdoorsman complains

Lakes have to many people because of increased sales - outdoorsman wants decreased license sales.

Some of you are worse than getting a woman to pick where she wants to go to dinner.....
 Reply by: badextracab      Posted: Feb. 24, 9:35:53 AM     Points: 74    
Welcome to the new CA -(
 Reply by: rdailey      Posted: Feb. 24, 12:50:34 PM     Points: 1146    
This makes sense I believe. To increase fees for hunting a species they have to get approval from the legislature I think. But requiring a small game or other associated license is a easier way around that.
 Reply by: pike&cats      Posted: Feb. 24, 5:44:41 PM     Points: 27    
They have changed the law and can raise prices whenever they want. If people want to complain they should complain about the merger between state parks and dow in my opinion.

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