Post By: Wildman84 Posted: 6/29/2020 9:31:48 PMPoints: 25
Heading to Spinney tomorrow with my kids, we have a 16’ boat and looking for General advice/tips on what lures to use and how to fish Spinney in general - not looking for anyone to give their hot spots away, just want to get to know the lake. Thanks for any help!
First off you should stay home.tomorrow the wind is looking prohibitive.If you go ware a PFD... not in the boat on you. 6 drowned last week in Colorado. If you don’t know the lake. Pick another day and do some research.
Yes I’m late, might not get to go until later in the week...but would like to go sometime soon if not this week. I2fly where do you find the wind forecast? I live in Conifer so I can postpone the trip if needed.
Reply by: Cobbhead Posted: 6/30/2020 6:50:28 AM Points: 27
For weather reports I like NOAA site, "weather.com". There is a weather station right on the east side of the lake, type in "Spinney Mountain Reservoir" for accurate reports. Also, note you can go to the map and click on a more remote area near any town/city.
Reply by: Hawaiian Punch Posted: 6/30/2020 7:03:57 AM Points: 9248
OK . .We know you live in the hills,have a boat,kids.Now tell us a bit about how you fish. How old are the kids? Do you troll,cast,dunk bait? Hows your boat set up? Spinny's a no bait lake,so your choices will be limited to flies and lures only.I'm going to get out of the way,as I don't fish there very often,but others here do and might be willing to help you get going in the right direction. Any reason Spinny over 11 mile or Antero?
Reply by: i2fly Posted: 6/30/2020 8:27:27 AM Points: 2072
I use IWindsurf. Credit to Bill, he sent me the link awhile back. I’ve been using every since. It’s pretty accurate. Especially within 2 days. We definitely plan our fishing around the wind. Spinney can be a fickle. Typically the fishing is better with some wind. Especially on the fly rod.
Caddis, Callibeatis, midges, are hatching. Damsels are expected at any time. The damsel nymphs are certainly active right now. Hoppers have been good late day. I don’t spin fish at all. The best suggestion I can make. Is come and pay your DUES. My post “sometimes we all struggle” is evidence of what I mean. I had to pay my dues that day. Just another curve ball in a days fishing. Every day you spend fishing is another lesson on how to hit the curve ball.
Reply by: Lund aka Dingo Man Posted: 6/30/2020 9:13:09 AM Points: 23
I2fly hit the nail on the head. I keep paying dues, but sometimes it seems like I am still way short of membership.
I believe the choice of Spinney is a bad one if you intend to take the family there fishing, especially the first time. I have fished in Colorado for 55 years, and pretty often at Spinney the past 10 years. Spinney is the most difficult place I have ever fished, bar none.
I would suggest Antero or 11 mile Res., although I am not overly familiar with these two lakes. But they both are heavily stocked and allow bait. I don't know much about bait fishing. You might inquire on this site about these two venues.
Kids and fly rods in a boat on Spinney in the wind just does not sound like a fruitful enterprise. If you try anyway, have a bottle of scotch in your car at the end of the day.
The others are right-on when they talk about the wind. I never go unless winds are predicted to be mild. The winds come up suddenly and can become very severe. Hard to get a boat on the trailer in high winds. Would not want my family on the lake in those circumstances.
Reply by: panfishin Posted: 6/30/2020 10:16:35 AM Points: 8791
I'm with i2Fly on the iwindsurf for the wind forcasts, I also check the windy app. they are usually pretty accurate but you always have to be prepared because it can sneak up on you quickly up there. If you are throwing lures, I like using spoons and jerkbaits for trout and bigger jerkbaits and bass-style spinnerbaits for pike. They work casting or trolling...although I haven't trolled the spinnerbaits...Tube jigs and hair jigs will also produce there, but you have to be careful with the tube jigs as they do not allow any kind of salt or scent in or on any of the baits and there aren't a lot of lure companies that are doing unscented/unsalted soft plastics.
the weeds and a little bit of wind will be your friend
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: 6/30/2020 10:28:58 AM Points: 6139
As several others have pointed out, use extreme caution on all of the Southpark lakes, I live here and fish the lakes over 125 days each soft water season. Go to Antero or 11 Mile would also be my suggestion. You don’t want to be in a 16’ boat on any of these lakes especially with children and the wind has been roaring yesterday as well as today, I live 15 minutes from Spinney and did not fish yesterday or today because of the wind. Also as noted, Spinney is fly and lure only, your chances of having a safe and enjoyable outing as well as catching some fish is exponentially higher at the bait lakes. I’ve been fishing the lakes since 2005 and there are days when I have a difficult time getting the rod to bend at all three lakes. Be safe this can be a dangerous situation as all have pointed out. Bill
From a boat, have the kids use a 2.5”-3” tube jig (In watermelon, brown or pumpkin) with a 1/4 oz jig head. Find 14 fow and they can jig vertically right over the side of the boat. They can also cast 3/8 oz blue & silver Kastmasters with a fast retrieve. From shore (East shoreline is good this time of year) they can again cast Kastmasters. But my favorite spinning rod technique for kids would be a fly & bubble. Use 5-6’ leader and tie on an olive damsel #12, a halfback #10, or a woolly worm #10 in olive or brown. Retrieve slow.
I would recommend to try Spinney from shore with the kids on your first few times. You will have more success from shore than you think. Enjoy.
@wildman84 I hope you do well w your kids. Sorry that you were scolded so hard by all the vets. God forbid you don't post EXACTLY how you intend to fish or provide details on your family history etc.... and also assuming you literally know NOTHING about wind and waves. Perhaps this may be true but again sorry that you got talked at as if you are some street urchin... Hey everyone im headed to Spinney tomorrow in my 16ft tracker. Oh Snap! its only 16 ft im sure im in danger!!! yeah... in danger of the idiots at the boat ramp that can't seem to back a trailer or load their boat or hold their own jock....(but they can sure tell you how to fish)
Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11 Posted: 7/7/2020 9:38:37 AM Points: 11558
They were just giving fair warning. These guys know these lakes well. Giving no response from the op. I for one would appreciate the best of knowledge for a lake I have no idea about. Specially if I’ve got the family in tow. It’s one thing to put myself at risk but the little ones are another story.
If you want real advice on the south park lakes, I would listen to “Setzdahook” ...... posting something 24/7 does not make you the authority on anything. Nor does just doing something for years, lots of people do things their whole life and are not very good at it. Don’t care much for blowhards and know it all’s ..... that’s just me and my two cents. O I do agree that South Park is really no place for a kayak. Unless you drive a Subaru. JK ........
Reply by: i2fly Posted: 7/8/2020 10:08:20 AM Points: 2072
Yes you have to pay your “dues”. I’m not sayin you won’t go kill the first time out. However sustained success is what I’m referring to. What I was talking about is you can still be humbled regardless of your skill level.
So, we all should remain silent never offer anything.... even when we all see a potential problem. Several people on a boat in big wind when you have not experienced it... especially the ferociously that can and will come up on spinney. Give me a break. No one was being rude Set’s. The one point I want to drive home is the winds are unforgiving. It only takes a second to swamp a boat. SEEN it happen too many times. So how about posting something positive. I give good information and words of caution along with my posts especially to newbies. I certainly never want anyone to be hurt. If that can be avoided. Have a nice day all! Especially you set’s ....
The information on the topics of wind and staying safe on the water is exactly the kind of stuff FX is all about. The posts may not always “politically correct”, but the intention to help is almost always the case. If only one person learns from them, then that’s a good thing!
Well, in that case I would take the boat anywhere from the first outhouse to areas to the north of there and anchor in 8 ft of water. Then, assuming conventional tackle. I would rig a weighted bobber on the line. From there I would extend 6 1/2 feet tippet down to a sz14 bead head hairs ear, just to keep it simple. 20" above that I would have tied on a small damsel imitation. I would cast it out there and have them let it sit and occasionally twitch it. 90% of the fly fishers around you will be doing some variation of this highly technical technique. Pretty simple. When the bobber goes down try to set the hook and reel in the fish. Then preferably release the fish, unless its of legal size and you choose to keep it. The key is depth stay within a foot to foot and 1/2 of your weed tops. As the great Philosopher Ricky once said, "It ain't rocket appliances." Oh, and be careful because the wind will come up fast, especially when t storms are moving through the area, thus creating enormous waves that can swamp your boat. I've seen it happen. If you can't make it to the ramp find a spot and beach the boat and wait it out don't try to run the swells you won't make it. And good luck.
Thanks guys for all your help - and sorry if I came across rude...I wasn’t trying to take advantage of anyone’s info or secret spots just excited about getting Into fishing with my kids. My kids are young, 8 and 5 but they love to fish and be out in the boat. We usually fish camp at Tarryall and have finally learned enough to reliably catch a couple for dinner! We have been primarily trolling thus as my kids are super proficient at casting yet but we are working on that :) We postponed the Spinney trip and went back to Tarryall. Thanks for everyone’s help on what to try and where to try. I hope to get there this summer but definitely will be cautious about the wind. Thanks to those who posted info on wind forecasts!
Welcome to the forum. You didn't come across rude at all! I think the consensus was simply it could be a rough trip for kids for a first time. I also disagree with some of my fellow members I think the order, easiest to toughest to fish at South Park is
Antero Spinney 11 Mile
If you're a metal chucker like me then it's hard to go wrong with the following lures. Watermelon tube jig. Kastmasters or Krocodile spoons, Taz Deveils or Venator wobblers, JERK BAITS.. shallow diving cranks like Mann's 1-minus and of course Dynamic HD's and JSpecs. Always remember the weeds are your friend. Always fish to the side the wind is blowing. Especially when it first kicks up
Also, unlike some of my fellow members, I see nothing wrong with overstating the wind at South Park. Many of the waters here have predictable wind forecasts, I have found SP to have a mind of its own. The pics attached are from July 2, 2020. This guy was first time on 11 Mile and a novice yak user.
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: 7/12/2020 10:59:39 AM Points: 6139
Wild man, In addition to AWB lure suggestions, especially for trolling and casting, get a few Thomas Bouyants in red/gold size 1/4 oz. I have caught many trout as well as big pike on this liure. Simple cheap and easy to use. Bill
Reply by: RogBow Posted: 7/16/2020 9:16:01 AM Points: 2497
Spinney isn't hard to fish at all. I haven't noticed a difference in catch rate on wind blown shorelines. If anything it's easier to control a boat on the other side and boat control = fish in the boat. Any of the lures mentioned work with a couple stand outs being stick baits. Be sure to smash the barbs down on trebles or else you will be wounding a lot of fish.
If you are having difficulty catching ftroutm go with a small leech on the bottom under an indicator near weed beds. If that fails, just troll a medium sized leech on an intermediate sinking line. Only problem with that is you will pick up pike, and as requested by the state of Colorado, remove them from the eco system.. if you want to do this be sure and use a 0X fluorocarbon as you don’t want to lose flies.
I have fished Spinney a couple dozen times and have never been skunked there. I use a Dynamic Trout HD in either gold with the black back or the gold with black spots. I troll across the north west end of the lake just fast enough to give action to the lure. I get vicious hits that way. Even get a few hammer handles that way as well.