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River: Taylor River

Redd fishing

Post By: MALLEN      Posted: 6/7/2020 3:56:32 PM     Points: 44    
Spent a week on the Taylor, I was totally FLOORED by the numbers fishing the redds, the number of guides taking clients to the redds? Un real... The redds should be closed to fishing during the spawn.
 Reply by: River_FlyFisher      Posted: 6/7/2020 4:10:58 PM     Points: 3128
Ridiculous!!! Most fly fishing guides in CO anymore are seasonal help, and come from other states, mostly back East. They're generally rude, don't care about the resource, and just want their clients to catch fish so they can get their big fat tip.

It's the same on the 'Pan, the Blue, and just about every other popular tailwater in this state starting in May and going through the summer. They have no problem crowding you and will squeeze you out of a spot if they want it and you let them. I had one guide on the 'Pan a couple years ago yell at me for being in "his spot", telling me I had to move for him. LMAO! I don't think so! Another one last year literally entered the water not even 30' from my where my daughter was standing and fishing, and had his client start fishing the same run she was fishing. So close, they got their lines tangled on the client's first cast. Too dang close, totally unacceptable, and I let that guide have a piece of my mind, shaming him loudly in front of his client, insisting he exit the water and get out of my daughter's hole. Unreal and sad. They'll tell you that's acceptable practice where they're from (again, usually back East, if the rudeness and accent didn't already give you a clue). Sure not the same as it was 20-30 years ago.
 Reply by: Bubba02STi      Posted: 6/8/2020 12:59:11 AM     Points: 515
Iíve lost respect for quite a few fly shops because of the actions of their guides. Iíve had a few try and push my son and I out of runs before. We just make it a PITA for them. Casting at their lines, drifting into them etc. usually they will give up and leave after a bit. Iíve also had a few buddies quit being guides because of the clients and how crappy they can be.

Iíll admit Iíve gotten into the redds a time or two by mistake. Sometimes they are unnoticeable until youíre right on them. Iíll always move on and find another run but almost immediately someone will just trek in behind me. These reasons have led me to start fishing private access (with permission of course), or in areas that arenít as easily accessible.

The only times I ever feel like giving up my spot is when I see a kid trying to fish and I know Iím in a good run which will put them on some fish as well. The way I look at is my son and I will always catch fish, but it could be that kids only chance to have a memorable trip and get him hooked.
 Reply by: 3wayfisha      Posted: 6/8/2020 9:07:52 AM     Points: 413
lets be honest though...a lot of people fishing tailwaters dont show up to the river with the best etiquette at all...this is a reason i dont really fish them anymore

having someone walk thru my run and start fishing it in 11 mi did it for me, someone telling me to look out for his back cast at the cable hole on the blue (roll cast alley...sometimes 5 people fishing this hole) did it for me. seeing guys fishing from the bridge on the taylor to get their drift right did it for me.

its just something about the tailwaters that brings out some a holes who are there for their glory pic unfortunately..n its not just the guide shops
 Reply by: Trotline      Posted: 6/8/2020 12:35:04 PM     Points: 126
Had a friend fishing the Frying Pan. He was on the far side and a guide and a client show up. My friend was fishing with fairly large streamers, He heard the guide tell his client that the guy across the river would not catch anything because his fly was to large. They fished the same run for about 20 minutes and my friend landed two browns and the client did not have a bite. The client crossed the river and asked my friend for help. My friend gave him his pole and they moved to the next run. The client caught two browns and the guide left the river.
 Reply by: Kolorado KingFisher      Posted: 6/8/2020 1:03:31 PM     Points: 82
those fish cannot reproduce successfully, they are completely artificial to CO...not native in any shape manner or form...thus ethics surrounding fishing redds is totally a mute argument.
 Reply by: not too old to fish      Posted: 6/8/2020 6:10:22 PM     Points: 9228
Kolorado, I think you should do some research before making a statement you seem to know very little about. Both rainbows and browns successfully spawn in many rivers and streams in the state, but due to heavy fishing pressure and other man made obstacles there are not enough fish that live to be fully grown to produce good fishing. Addition of stocked fish is necessary in most places to maintain enough catchables for the number of fisherman that utilize the resource. Brown trout are more successful at reproducing because they spawn in the fall when river levels and temperatures are more stable as opposed to spring time and the run off that changes the water level and temperature very rapidly.
 Reply by: 3wayfisha      Posted: 6/8/2020 11:37:46 PM     Points: 413
i thought about that kolorado...but i reaaaaally bet some of the bows in the taylor could successfully spawn in that upper region if there wasnt 100 people fishin em a week..some spots up there are just huge beds really

 Reply by: MALLEN      Posted: 6/9/2020 7:19:27 AM     Points: 44
Kolarado, you are mis informed.
 Reply by: yard dogs      Posted: 6/9/2020 8:22:28 AM     Points: 746
Beautiful river. Great fish. But that place is a straight zoo.
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