Post By: Independent Posted: 5/27/2020 8:59:47 PMPoints: 0
Hey all. Been lurking here a while. I have fished Spinney only once years ago but was wondering if the big pike hit there often? I have never fished them and I certainly don't want to stir up the pike infestation drama. I just want to go with my son and land some fish. My concern is the veracious appetite of pike and if I show up with my 4 lb line light line will I get broke off by the gators often?
Any suggestions for set up for rod, reel line set up? Not looking for your secret recipe just need to know what will work so we can fish without problems.
Thanks for any help guys.
Here is some I can pass along. Antero on Tuesday 5/26 had slow action. Landed one decent rainbow on a crank bait. Lots of followers right up to within 10' of shore then they wouldn't hit and swim back out, need to change my technique clearly. Later in the day landed a couple smaller ones on a spoon. Most people left the Northshore by 3.
this is a pretty tough question. If you've been keeping up with any of the Spinney threads, folks are commenting that they are catching too many pike right now. Altho mostly hammer handles.
On the other hand, you can catch pike here at any time. A medium power rod with 8 to 10 lb test will work just fine. Be sure you set drag accordingly. Any number of lures are working right now (if I'm reading correctly). Lures that frequently work for me at Spinney are large spoons and stick baits. Also loud colored cranks.
On the last part of your thread.. I would say if you are getting that many follows.. you are seriously close to presenting what they want. Maybe try varying your retrieve just a bit, a little slower or a little faster.
yea what AWB said. it will take a bit of work , to get into the bigger pike. I'm still working on getting one in the 40 inch range, but i don't get up there nearly as often as i would like.
As far as the follows...my rule of thumb for all of the South Park lakes is that if i see one follow, throw right back and speed it up. Doesn't always work but like AWB said, you are obviously on the right track...just missing one little thing.
I agree with the boys, change your retrieve pace or same lure different color. I generally tend to use silver and pink at Antero, but sometimes all I do is switch to yellow or green, same lure and the bite turns on. I have really switch things up over the past 5 years. If i'm not catching while casting lures I'll switch after every 15-20 cast. usually simple changes like size and color, then lure type and repeat. It amazes me how sometimes the littlest change makes all the difference.
As far as Spinney pike go, my simple formula is this: shiney things on bright days, rainbow color on cloudy day. Spoons, Cranks, Tasamanian Devils and bigger fish like bigger baits!
Ok great fellas, thanks for the info. Yes I was really needing to vary my retrieval. The issue was I would see the followers on every 12th - 20th cast or so it wasn't consistent enough for my dumb brain to connect with my hand before they were gone. They were coming like torpedoes though. I knew I was close to getting the right recipe. I also admittedly was using line that was too light. Antero now owns three of my lures, ugh. I was using 4lb Magnathin. The other issue is I was using a new Lew's baitcast reel. This is my first baitcaster and there is definitely a learning curve with that set up. Spent more time than I care to admit figuring out the system to avoiding backlash.
AWB thanks so much. Will switch to a heavier line and check my drag. I bet my 10 yr old wouldn't mind playing the hammer handle game for a day haha. I know some guys hate the pike but the idea of landing a 40 incher would be pretty awesome none the less. I have never landed anything close to that big. Will keep trying thanks again guys
Reply by: RD_3 Posted: May. 30, 10:24:24 AM Points: 6
In the late 90s when Spinney was going through its first pike imbalance, I did best with buzzbaits. Specifically, 3/8 and 1/2 oz chartreuse double buzzers with a grub on the hook. White with red was a close second. My next best lure was spinnerbaits in the same weight and colors.
To be fair, I did not try many other lures. Catching pike on topwater in a belly boat was a blast. As a bonus, you avoid the weeds and they seem to not care if you run a wire leader like they might on an underwater lure. Being in a belly boat probably enhanced the excitement when a toothy critter explodes on your buzzbait 10 feet away. Most of my hits came in the last 20 feet. I finally realized the pike were following forever and when I was getting ready to lift and recast, I would change the direction of the buzzbait and that change in direction was often the trigger.
No matter what lure you cast, make sure you flip your rod far left and far right maybe three or four times in the last half of the retrieve. Make the lure do the biggest and fastest change of direction you can impart. And do not lift your lure out of the water until you retrieve past you and you can see nothing is following. Even in my belly boat, some would follow the buzzbait rod-length out in circles around me.
I would also suggest using a foot of tie-able stainless-steel leader or extra heavy fluorocarbon right before the lure. Another option is hard mono. Either way, you want something their teeth cannot cut. I think my current heavy fluorocarbon leader is 50 pound test. Given the choice, I would go with heavy fluorocarbon over stainless, but stainless is safer.
If you do get a big fish on, I would set the hook a second time and hard. But not too hard you break your line. You will have to judge that. But I think most of the big pike I lost were due to a poor hookset on the initial hit. Wait for you and the fish to settle down and your line is mostly a direct line to the fish, and set the hook again purposefully. It is not a problem with the hammer handles.
Finally, make sure you have some long pliers with you. You do not want to remove barbed treble hooks from a large pike’s mouth with your bare hands. Catching pike if fun, but make sure it does not include a trip to the ER.
RD_3 that sounds like good advice. Catching the large ones in a belly boat does sound like a blast to me. I am a bit of an adrenaline junky myself. I bet that was always intense when they hit so close! When you were in the belly boat what was the largest you ever landed? Thanks for the tips boss I will remember that.
Catching a monster from an inflatable is something you simply have to experience.
Going back to what RD said... the weeds are your friend! Sometimes a second hookset is a great idea, I believe I lost a couple giants because of it. Don't take your lure out until the last second. About 3 years ago at The Mile I was casting before I launched the tube... dang hammer handle beached itself trying to get my lure.
If you want an idea of what a monster on an inflatable is like.. look at my youtube and find Trophy Pike at Spinney Reservoir. Thats a 10 foot toon with me on it and it spins me and drags me to deeper water like nothing.
A couple late notes, I don’t do a lot of “Rocket Launcher” fishing as I prefer the long rods but at times early and late season I’ll, have it with me. When I spin fish, I’ll give a lure five casts, no hits and I change the lure out, just my tick. My largest pike was my last trip in 2018 end of October, with 4# braid and an U/L rod, the fish ate a 1/4 ounce Thomas Bouyant in red and gold, this BTW is one of my favorite trout lures . Spinney has a biomass based on 2019 survey, of 53% pike, the CPW. biologists ask that you take any and all pike from this reservoir, this obviously is your own personal decision. Hope this helps, there are some gators in there, I saw one this week that was well over 40” Bill