Post By: Fishinbud Posted: 5/27/2020 8:24:58 PMPoints: 0
Based upon netting surveys, we decided to give North Sterling Reservoir a try today. We headed out of the Denver area at 5:30, and arrived as the south boat ramp just before 8. There was one boat ahead of us, and the 3 gentlemen let us know that the inspector wasn't there yet. So, we decided to prep our boat while we waited. The guys in front of us were friendly, advised us that they lived in Ft. Morgan, routinely fish the lake, and have been doing well lately.
We let them know that this was our 1st time ever to North Sterling. They were kind enough to give us some pointers on what areas of the lake were often productive for them. Well, about 5 minutes later, a Park Ranger came by, and let us know, that only the north boat ramp was open. So, we made our way over to the north boat ramp, got inspected, launched, and headed to a point with some flooded timber and brush. We immediately caught a nice crappie, and released an undersized wiper. Lots of carp were in the area, and it was relatively shallow, so, we decided to try the transitional areas that our new fishing acquaintances were kind enough to share with us. As we passed them, they let us know that they had already landed 5 walleyes, and they were strategically picking apart the area where they were enjoying success.
We didn't want to horn in (never do), so we went a couple hundred yards further, and for the next 5 hours, it was game on! We used the same tactics as on Jumbo, with 1/4 oz jig-head with either a 3 or 4 inch chartreuse twister-tail. Letting it sink to the bottom, give it a twitch, let it sink, swimming, twitching, falling, repeating, all the way back to the boat. We also had our "bonus" lines in rod holders, with hook, line, sinker, and a night crawlers, which also produced.
The area that we started at was fishing so reliably, that we did something that we rarely do, we anchored. Over the next 5 hours, we landed over 50 walleyes, and a dozen perch. The eyes were between 14-21", with most in the 18-20" range. The wives were happy once again, because more fried walleye/perch, and walleye sliders will be on the menu this week.
Again, another shout out to the 3 kind fellow anglers, that graciously offered us advice, that instantly paid off. North Sterling has very decent accommodations, but it would be nice that if only 1 ramp were open, that it would be the south one, instead of the north, since the parking lot there is a LOT bigger. Then again, the south ramp being closed is what led to our chance encounter with the other fellow fisherman, that are confident enough in their abilities, that they had no problem what so ever, sharing with a couple of rookies, relative to fishing a new lake. We can all learn from one another, wherever we find ourselves, and I am thankful for another opportunity, to learn about a quality Northeast Colorado Reservoir, from a few kind-hearted fellow anglers. Take care, tight lines, and best of luck.
Reply by: Fishinbud Posted: May. 28, 11:27:56 AM Points: 0
not too old to fish, having looked back a ways on this site, I was surprised by the few number of fishing reports, especially considering how nice the lake, and its ramps are. As you probably know, the lake has a couple, VERY nice boat ramps. The north parking lot was almost full when we arrived. Why the south ramp isn’t used all week long, is beyond me. That said,Goosehunter82, if BOTH ramps are open, as it SHOULD be (where 2 boats can load/unload at the same time), congestion shouldn’t be a problem. This reservoir is also good sized, and can more than handle the pressure. I should have mentioned, the water temps were between the mid 60’s, to lower 70’s, and the fishing once again, was as good as anything in MN. Take care, tight lines, and good luck.
ronco, hawaiian punch, yeah, I know, why would you want to catch 50+ 2-4# eyes all day long (the last fish of the day was a NICE FAT 23"er but we had long since filled our limit), when you have the Crack to go to?
Don't get me wrong, the Crack and Chatty are fine, it's easy to catch fish at both locations, but it most definitely is NOT easy to catch enough for a decent meal at either location, at least not on a consistent basis.
It appears that you have been there quite a few times, even had open seats to take some guests out, good for you! Hmmm, but what I don't see all that much of though, are reports on this site, after your outings.
Whether you or your guests post, all we pretty much see, if you do even bother to provide a report, are a few pics along with some trivial commentary, which really, isn't much of a fishing report at all imo.
Again, I was under the assumption that this was a site to share/learn about fishing from fellow anglers, but from many of the posts that I see, that doesn't seem to be the case a lot of the time. Hopefully, for those trying to learn how to catch one of the more elusive, highly desirable game fish that populate our state's various water systems, that changes for the better. Take care, and best of luck.
Its not worth the reply,but here is your picture to validate the catching of eyes and wipers at local lakes. All your chest pounding pictures don't add up to jack and over on the FXR side folks are laughing their heads off at you.We live in a country based on freedom and that includes speech . . . . . .use it wisely. My offers of open seats are for FNGs and old salts . . .everyone comes away having had a great time and also learned something new.Ya don't see them beating their chests . . .
hawaiian punch, picture, what picture? Do you need help posting? Oh, I see, you got er' done, on the 2nd or 3rd time now, congrats, he can be taught. Feel free in the future, to post some useful pics along with the posts, otherwise, it's just your personal bragging board. I know I look funny, but in the last post, you look a bit constipated. Maybe bring along some coffee or prune juice next time out,
As for any "chest pumping", that's hardly the case. I merely take a pic or two during the day, and share them as part of my report, where I tell, who, what, where, when, how, and sometimes even why. I try to give folks enough information to do well, and show them what they can get for their efforts.
I asked you before, and I'll ask you again, "You mad Bro'?". Seriously, if your last pathetic post "wasn't worth the effort", then, why post at all? Or, is being snarky, just in your nature, and you just can't help yourself?
As for any FXR members laughing, I couldn't care less. Some of the folks over there are decent, post useful responses, and contribute to helping out their fellow anglers, although, judging by you and some others, that may be a bit of a rarity. I hope that's not the case.
On that side of the board, I guess I expected more, but just like most things in Colorado, received less. I get most of my useful information on the public side, and that's why I usually post there. There are more of us over here, and trust me, we're laughing, a lot louder than you.
Take care, best of luck, and try to post less hostile, and informative posts if you can.
I do know about the rest, but i do not at all feel as though Fishinbud is chest pounding as Hawaiipuch stated. I have very much enjoyed the pic’s and have greatly appreciated the information on the walleye tactics that Fishinbud has had success with. 50’fish afternoon on Sterling is impressive to me. If anyone is chest pounding, it’s the ones who present pictures and no information what so ever for others to apply. The brag board is all yours Hawaiianpunch—-your nice catch there with zero information to pass along to fellow anglers.——Cheers!!
No RogBow, I do not. Like I said, the north ramp was very busy, full in fact, before I even mentioned word 1 about the reservoir. I'm sure that on a weekend, it will be even busier, but that's a given. Similarly, the 140 or so boats out on Jumbo, were there, BEFORE my post about that reservoir as well. I merely let people know, that despite some reports to the contrary, the fish were still biting, aggressively even.
Increased traffic should again be no problem at North Sterling, the south boat ramp is HUGE, and the reservoir is over 2800 acres. The 3 fellow anglers that shared, know what they're doing, and from the looks of it, did just as well as we did. Even while others may struggle to catch fish, I'm sure that they'll adjust accordingly, and get theirs.
What was interesting though, was that most people were not (it was the same when we were at Jumbo). I understand that some folks have their way about doing things, and "do what they do" when they go fishing, and sometimes it works out great.
I love casting/trolling with Flick-R-Shad, and sometimes, that bite is on FIRE! Other times, nothing ... So, most days, you have to try to find out what's working, and once you've figured it out, go with that.
For me (and pretty much everyone else), finding the fish is the biggest challenge. On new bodies of water, it can take several hours occasionally. That said, with having scouted out the areas, knowing generally where I'm going to go, and fine tuning it with electronics once I'm there, it usually seems to work out well. Getting a heads up about a few good areas helps, but judging from how others were doing (or not doing yesterday), I was hardly hand-fed any would be fishing success.
I've said if before, and I'll say it again, when I post, I will tell you where I fished, what I did, and how it worked out. If I bothered to snap a couple pictures along the way, I'll include them as well. Ah, one thing that I forgot to mention was, that we decided to slip bobber later in the day (that can be deadly on eyes that are feeding, but not willing to chase down their prey). I didn't have the line in the water for 2 minutes, and a hungry eye, aggressively complied.
Again, I thought that this board was for letting people know about our fishing trips, where we went, what we used, and how it went, for all to try to learn and replicate, so, that's what I post. To hear some complain about "Hot-Spotting" a lake, or telling too much (and let them figure it out), just goes to show how profoundly selfish and shallow, some of the members here are, particularly on the FXR side, from all indications the past couple weeks. Do I get cavalier at times? Yes, yes I do, but only when provoked by someone flippantly casting a snide one liner, or, the intent of their post was nothing but taking a shot, because they're upset that I dared to call some positive attention, to a productive PUBLIC body of water, than they delusionally believe, to be their very own. Take care and best of luck.
The number of points tell it all! HP has ALWAYS been ready to lend a hand, whether it be fish related or otherwise, and he does this of his own volition. He often times not only gives advice, but follows through on his promises, and many time’s, has donated items out of his own pocket. I wish there were more guys like him.
While it’s everyone’s privilege to disagree, I don’t think it’s right for someone to blatantly disrespect another person to make themselves look good.
skiman, oh, so now it's points that "count"? Okay, I use to be a member here, had quite a few points as well, but for some time, I had let my membership expire, and didn't post much. Back then, for my taste, there were just too many folks that used this site as their personal bragging boards, providing little if any useful information, sometimes WILDLY over exaggerated their catches, and acted almost like it was a sin, for harvesting fish.
Truth be told, I rarely keep a limit of fish, and return 99% of what I do catch. The exception being, on put and take bodies of water. As far as respect goes, read my initial posts. I am NOT here to "make myself look good". Sometimes my results look good, sometimes, not so much. What I do post, is simply who, what, where, when, how, and sometimes why, regarding a recent outing, along with a few pics. If that helps some new anglers out, fan-dam (the site would not allow the correct spelling)-tastic!
If someone wants to disagree, that's fine, and I'll gladly discuss whatever the topic happens to be. But if someone want to get pissy about something, I'll let them know what I really think as well. Hawaiian Punch chose to be snide, and then post pics with no useful info. at all, which is common here, call it what it is. If you really want to keep score, for what truly counts, and makes everyone here a better angler, keep track of who posts a FULL account of their outings, and not merely pictures, with no content of substance at all, because that's the folks that are trying to make themselves "look good", with all the fish they caught, on Lake X, using their special innate abilities. For those that can't take what they dish out, taking a relative verbal knife to a gun fight, and no, I'm not here to "fight" with anyone, and wish if they don't have something decent to say, to keep it to themselves, it is what it is ...
I wont name drop anyone (list is long here) but its the main reason i dont post up info very often any more. Alot of folks come in, post pics, brag about how epic the fishing is but offer up no useful info. Its become far too much about "look at me" "acknowledge me" ect. Now making a post and telling the story is great and all but if its such a big secret that you cant share even what water you were on ect then you should just stfu about it imo. The,official condition reports of fished lake X, caught 3 , slow day doesnt really help much. When my in depth reports of water lvl, temps, hazzards, and productive depths ect gets replaced with poop the next day or so, it makes it feel like a waste of time.
The virus,stuff brought out the idiot in alot of ppl here. Kind of the tipping of the scales for me. Those that know me are always welcome to contact me about fishing but i wont feed some of the yahoos around here anymore.
As for the OP, it was a good story and theres a lesson in there. Being nice and respectful and talking to ppl can go along way. If the ppl arenrespectful and aproach me, im generally happy to give the low down. However i generally just get 5 or so boats all hoarde around me less than 50ft away on a 8k+ acre lake and never even say hello. Those are the ppl (like last weekend) who get to watch my boat land over 50 fish with 4 over 30 before noon while they,steuggle to catch anything. Im generally pretty quick to share what im usn and how to use it if aproached properly and not just crowd in on me and stare for 2 hours.
I’ve been on this site for a couple of years now. I don’t post much. Mainly lake updates. I first came to this site looking for info on a particular body of water. And the responses I received are the #1 reason why I won’t pay for a subscription. Fishinbud is absolutely correct. A public forum like this SHOULD be a treasure trove of information. Unfortunately, too many anglers seem to be a bit too sensitive. Any info given out is immediately met with scorn and persecution. I don’t get it. It’s not like someone on here is going to give up the Holy Grail and the next day, everyone living within 500 miles is suddenly going to take up fishing. I’m no religious zealot or anything, but it seems to me, a very wise man once said, “Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll eat for a lifetime”. Most see that quote and think it’s about why handouts aren’t good for anyone. But what I see is the word “teach”. Not all of us had the opportunity to become good fishermen at an earlier stage in life. Not all of us have the finances to acquire state of the art boats and gear. A lot of people just want to sit on the bank, relax, and “bait dunk” as I’ve seen it called here. Or just take their kids/grandkids to the lake for a day of fishing. There are plenty of fish. Between God and the CPW, you can rest assured that there isn’t going to be a shortage any time soon. Unless fishing is the way you “bring home the bacon”, I always thought it was just supposed to be fun. 99% of the people on here are strict C&R. Knowing that, what harm is there in letting someone know where there may be a fish or 2? Most of the people here will just throw back anything they catch. So it’ll still be there when you go back. Lastly, many of the comments I see that advocate keeping “secrets” say something along the lines of, “well finding the fish is a big part of it. You need to do your homework on a body of water”. First, how can anyone do homework if the info isn’t out there somewhere? Spend hours/days trying to find some fish? Many people don’t have that kind of time. When I go out, I fish for maybe 3-4 hours. I wish I could fish longer but responsibilities and being disabled severely limit my time on the water. So knowing where to go or what’s working are very valuable to me and others I’m sure. Second. If finding the fish is such a big part of why you enjoy fishing, then why are you going to the same exact spots over and over? It seems to me that those people would be fine with people fishing “their spot” because they already found those fish. Time to find more. Right? I’m not trying to blow a breeze up anyone’s skirt. Just trying to shed a little light on why many of us might need some help, and why some of us don’t mind giving some tips to help everyone have a better time fishing.
This whole "hotspotting" thing is getting out of control. Let me put this to bed for everyone if you're still on the fence or think that hotspotting is actually a thing.
If you don't know that pretty much all the eastern reservoirs fish really well in May and June for walleyes, then here's your lesson: Everyone can catch fish from boat or even from shore this time of year! I've come home with walleye from shore the last two weeks because my boat is down temporarily. Just walking up and down a dam at dawn, casting gulp minnows on 1/8 jig heads, which brings me to my next point:
Do any of you guys watch Fishful Thinker?!?! Is that show just a "hot spotting" show? Do you all hate Chad? I can't thank him enough, or anyone else who helps spread the knowledge. Sure, fisheries change from year to year and go through cycles, but if you follow Chad's advice at all, you'll get into fish! That's how I learned to fish western reservoirs. Coming out from the east coast I had to learn a lot of new things fishing man made reservoirs, I picked up techniques and locations and time of year to fish certain species from Fishful Thinker. Its just knowledge sharing, not hot spotting.
Do any of you guys youtube Tightline Outdoors? Someone ask Nate what he thinks about him hot spotting, because what everyone is crying about is what these guys do already. This website isn't even close to the only resource to get hot spot information from.
I've seen posts about Plo for years that are the same as this, but didn't get this kind of negative attention.
Seriously, its seems like impatient people are upset that lakes and ramps are busy. Maybe try going to a different lake, trust me, there are plenty that give up walleye in May and June. Or try getting your lazy butts up earlier to be first in line if your spot on that lake means that much to you.
Lastly, walleye are stocked to be taken by anglers in this state. Even with the loss of the spawning operation this year, there are, and will be, plenty of fish for everyone, Practice proper conservation and take the cookie cutter males in the 16-18in range, if allowed, and let go the big females.
reddave, couldn't agree with you any more. Funny that you mentioned Chad LaChance. Me and a "fishinbud" were talking about him just the other day, in a very similar way. Dude always says that a 3" Gulp Minnow, on an 1/8th oz jig, catches everything in the pond. Truer words have never been spoken! Further, he explains EXACTLY what he's doing, WHERE he's fishing, and WHEN it's working best.
You evolved in your fishing from Saltwater to Fresh, eh? I've been doing a bit of the opposite lately, in Florida and Louisiana. Just as the Gulp Minnow gets it done in freshwater, Don's 3/8 oz Potbelly Jig, ideally tipped with a 1/3 of a shrimp (or another scented product), catches most everything in the ocean (pond) as well, from Sheepshead to Shark, and everything in between (but you probably already know that, or, have used something similar, with great results).
Finally, if points are what matters, as skiman tried to agrue (which they don't), well then, "Winner, WINNER, Walleye Dinner, for YOU!" :) Excellent post, take care, and continued best of luck!
Fushinbud obviously do as you would like but a simple lake update here on the site would suffice and likely eliminate these long some snarky and argumentative replies. At the end of the day points really just show how many or how much someone has contributed to the site. The more lake updates the more points you earn. A great deal of information is shared by many of the people that you have been talking with on this thread. Sometimes its shared over a phone call or email. I may be speaking out of turn but I think many people don't like just being putting it out there because there are many probably thousands of people that lurk. There is nothing wrong with lurking but I think the belief of many who contribute in a regular basis is that why share info with people who never ever share it back. Lake condition reports vs fishing reports are two different things. You will find plenty on the condition of the lake and usually a little less on the bite. That is the purpose of the lake update page. I'm generally always happy to give out any info someone wants but I won't just post it out there for the world to see. The longer your here the more relationships you will build. If I put up a post and said where is the hot perch bite i'de probably have a dozen responses with real info within 24 hours. I've shared that same info with thoes 12 people. At this point I'm probably just rambling, my point is be helpful that's what we're all hopefully here for and get to know some of these people. There is so much knowledge here it's insane.
Goose, let's be intellectually honest here, shall we? What I provided from the get go, was timely, useful information, that anyone who fishes, whether newcomer or experienced, could put into practice, and experience some level of success out on the water, if they applied what was shared.
No more, no less. The SNARKY replies, originated from, and are what reigned down from, some of the FXR rank and file. Hey, if they want to provide phone calls or emails to others in what they consider to be some sort of elite or exclusive group, when it comes to giving decent input/advice on the FXR side, fine, they can go right ahead and do so.
But jumping down a guy's throat, with snide remarks for giving anyone else who is interested in our pass-time, the who, what, when, where, how and why's of fishing, really isn't interested in helping out others overall, and it shows.
It's like watching some of the news today, when/where at times, you see/hear a story that's supposedly reported, and the reporter is either careless or so involved with pushing an agenda of distorting reality, that they leave anyone interested, wanting for the salient FACTS that they didn't provide, and you come away with more questions than answers, because the reporters don't provide the relevant info., and the report was basically a waste of everyone's time overall.
If people don't like or appreciate my relatively complete reports, don't read them. Again, if you don't like them, no problem, say so if you like, but in a decent manner. But if you want to go toe to toe relative to wit, experience, and knowledge, bring it on, and if you dish out some low-brow comments, put on your Big Boy pants, and don't cry foul, when you're met with some of your own medicine. That said, take care, and best of luck.
Goose, no offense taken, just setting it straight that the rude, snarky comments, started with long time FXR members, and as some have pointed out, is precisely why they either are no longer a member, or, don't post very often any more. Take care.
Been reading these posts for a while . Trying to keep quiet, but it's time . Keep hearing "Teach and Learn coming up. What have I learned here. Go to a spot, ask for help. Get intel on when why where and how. Post bragging pictures. And hide it under the thin veil of " but I'm helping others" . NOT! Heard well I wasn't fortunate enough to be taught at an early age . I didn't know there was an age limit to learning. Been an avid In- fisherman reader since 12. At that was a long time ago ! My philosophy.If you want to improve at something . Be willing to put in the effort to improve. And there are ..NO.. DAMMED...EXCUSES !!!
Here's a point. Heard Chad La Chance's show mentioned a few times. All you guys take away from the show is use a 3" Gulp Minnow on a 1/8 oz jig ? He can correct me if I'm wrong here. But I think the concept he tries to illustrate . Is How To.... READ... the water and fish for conditions ! THAT's TEACHING SOMEBODY TO FISH !!!!! Not throw a gulp product ! ( Poppiell made the "Pocket Fisherman" .Berkley scientists. The "instant Fisherman " )!! It's not. Go here ! Use this! And LOOK what I did !
Yes. Somebody should show you what and how and even when. You ..LEARN.. by putting the concepts into practice ! TRIAL and ERROR baby !!! Best teacher on the planet.
I do lots of reports. I give temp ( real important) , water conditions, and food observations. I learned about the effects of hot spotting. My theory on that. The guys That take the time to learn about conditions can figure out what kind of day I had. The ones that can't will either ignore the report, or complain that it isn't " Comprehensive " enough.
HP and I don't always agree on things ( few fisherman do ) . But he has a lot of cred, and respect from the guys on this site. Including from me. Can't help respect a guy that always willing to help. And take people on his boat and show them what he does ( read TEACH !) WHO GIVES A RATS ASS IF HE DOESN'T POST REPORTS OR SHOW PICTURES !!! On a slow day, he contributes more to this site than most. HP, I'm gonna agree with you on this one. Your veil is mighty thin Fishinbud. Your reports are more for a site like Fishbrain than FXR. And laugh if you want. But I an on this site as a PAYING member and not even on their's because it ISN'T like Fishbrain.I like it that way. Bet there are a few FXR+ members that feel the same.
Reply by: bron Posted: May. 28, 6:37:04 PM Points: 38411
I really dont feel its hotspotting if the body of water is more than 100 acres and you dont give an exact location. I like this post and pics and good for you OP. Not saying this for points but the site appreciates actual reports on the lake if you wouldnt mind, in addition to the nice post.
Lets stay civil guys. I know our current situation has everyones stress level up.
Fishuinbud, I do remember you. You were one of the early members on here (as was I.) You had some great posts and advice back then. Unfortunately, times have changed, as have members. You will get the grief from some. Reason why I quit posting. I Do enjoy reading ACTUAL fishing reports tho. Ah, the good old days! Great post!
bron and bluecreek, thanks for sounding off, nice to see that some long standing members around here, have some common sense and decency.
As for Smelly (appropriately named), because your insults and grammar, both stink. The only thing that is thinly veiled around here, is the passive aggressiveness and contempt, that some FXR+ members have, for others on this site, that don’t agree with their all too frequent, jackassery.
That said, Jumbalaya and Walleye Sliders, it’s what’s for dinner!
For the record, there are some very nice and helpful ppl on this site. Its not all nad. Ive been on this site pretty much since the begining. Even had another acct before this one. Im about as OG as it gets as far as this site goes. Wonder where some of the other OGs are...
Good sam Jam Fishwrangler FOM Mackattack Jed Icefishnfool Even the old catfishgoon
cookster, post up some of those 4 pounder pics? Is it simply that you want to see a decent fish, or, are you (falsely) calling BS on me? Believe it or not, we only took a couple pictures early in the day, and then of what we kept of the 17-21” variety?
A 4# walleye is nice, but nothing to write home about it. My fishing buddy landed, measured and released it, without even asking to have a picture taken. It was the last fish of the day.
Then again, he’s caught a LOT of BIG walleyes in his days of fishing. But if you want to see a picture of a photo worthy fish caught on one of our recent outings, would a #7+ Jackson eye be to your liking? If so, here ya’ go ...
Reply by: Smelly Posted: May. 29, 3:02:36 AM Points: 25062
No Fishnbud. To me , what stinks , is going to a new lake. Asking for help . Having somebody be nice enough to give you all the intell you need to make your day a whole lot less work . And a whole lot more productive. Then returning the favor by hot spotting the lake by posting on social media. Shows a real lack of appreciation . Doesn’t matter what specie of fish . Post a hot bite on here , and people will flock ! I can take a place like St Vrain . Where the biggest attraction is 10” stocker trout . Post that I had a 30 fish day . And watch the population of fisherman double by the next day. For the guy nice enough to help you . The old saying applies . “ No good deed goes un punished “.
Reply by: illpilgrim Posted: May. 29, 8:46:17 AM Points: 1648
On the hot spotting topic. Each side has some merit. Particularly for a large body of water, I can see how posts like this would be extremely helpful to folks who are beginners. I couldn't be more thankful for the information and advice I've been given over the years. Especially when I was starting out. For beginners there is a large gap between ambition and knowledge. I remember meeting David Coulson by chance at a local lake. After our conversation he gave me some of his clouser minnows and advice. I caught a lot of fish that day, instead of getting the skunk. All that info is available on this site btw. What was important was the technique. Not the body of water. On that note, when Chad does fish small bodies of water on the front range he does tend to keep the location to himself. Once again, it seems the tactics are more important than the specific body of water.
I'm a firm believer in paying your dues. I've spent years exploring every single lake in my general area. I'm not going to just give up what lakes are the best. Heck even a cheap little fish finder I bought years ago had in the instructions "do not to tell your friends about your honey hole. Nothing ruins a honey hole faster than work of mouth" Well the internet is a whole lot worse.
I've watched several of my favorite spots get crushed this year with increased traffic. I enjoy fishing for the challenge but also I love the outdoors and getting away from the masses. There's a reason I don't fish decker's. I like to take my time picking a body of water apart, exploring is half the fun. Hard to do that when anglers are lined shoulder to shoulder. Obviously a large lake offers a lot of additional space so its a little different than smaller lakes. However, I definitely take advantage when people spill the beans, and so does everyone else. Maybe just keep it to tactics and everyone will be happy. You get to talk about what makes your so excited and nobody's favorite lake gets blasted. Love this topic, great discussion, take care all.
I love the way Ben (huge fly fisherman) puts it: Hotspotting: [log in for link]
Reply by: 007 Posted: May. 29, 9:07:00 AM Points: 71
We all benefit from the help/suggestions/tips from others. And it seems we all like to be the source of info from time to time and sharing some data on a days fishing to a newbie at a new lake can build a sense of community. The OPs post indicated, he was obviously thankful for that information and Im sure if those folks showed up the next day and the OP found some new pattern he might be the source of new data for them or maybe another new angler on the water in return, and we all enjoy reciprocity right? However, given that these posts can live forever, it does appear to me to limit the liklihood of these in person, on the water interactions given the increasing risk (either real or perceived) of the data you shared with a new guy making the effort to get out on the water, that will become front-forum news the next morning for potentially hundreds or thousands of eyeballs and in perpetuity....and which may drive fishing pressure to a certain area. We would all be stoked if it became more of a norm in our community to experience what the OP did (in person exhange of intel on the boat ramp or on the water). And if the guys from Ft. Morgan knew this info would be spread online....maybe they wouldnt have shared....So maybe keep the details to oneself to ensure this ethos of on the water and boat ramp data reciprocity doesnt die a quicker death than it already is.... One things for sure, if the OP did something equivalent on a hunting forum like Rokslide...the verbal (and threats of actual ) abuse would be way worse than this post.
illpilgrim and 007, thanks for chiming in, and you do make some good points, I'll give you that. But when it comes to fishing, some things are apples to oranges.
When it comes to hunting, I agree completely. If you give up a location, you're likely going to lose it. Even if you don't lose it, your hunt may get screwed up, by someone else hunting in close proximity to you. So yes, you've gotta' be tight lipped when it comes to hunting honey holes.
When it comes to fishing, especially on a LARGE body of water, as once again, is the case here, having more people fishing the lake, isn't likely to effect you much at all, if you don't give up the exact "SPOT, on the spot".
Like I said, there were at least a dozen boats fishing the area that we were. Most just kept moving along, and we didn't see many folks catching. I covered that before, as they were trolling, and while that works great at times, it wasn't the ticket the other day.
We were casting to specific locations. The only thing that messed it up just a bit for a while, was someone seeing us land fish, and then coming close, asking us how we were doing, and going right over the school of fish, in relatively shallow water. About twenty minutes after they did so, the fish and bite returned. In deeper water, it wouldn't have bothered me in the least, and didn't this time, because they probably weren't aware until upon us, that we were making 40+ yard casts.
Also, I do agree that learning many techniques, and applying them where apt, is the key to consistent, long term success. That said, myself and others, surely scour these boards, to generally find out, when certain lakes turn on, and the fishing is really good. It sucks to travel a long ways, only to find out, that you're there a week or two too early. I was surprised at just how few reports there were for North Sterling Reservoir, but as I said, saw the stocking report, liked the access, and decided to give it a try, and then later, posted the report.
If I said, "The roadbed at Chatfield was hot", that would lead to more people fishing it. If you knew what you're doing, you'd catch fish, if not, you wouldn't. Sure, it could get to be more congested fishing, but would not wreck the lake, or, keep you from catching fish. It would probably even lead to other areas on the lake, being more open to you.
All 3 of the reservoirs that I mentioned in my posts, are LARGER than Chatty, and they are 2-3 hour drives (each way), from most metro locations. So, the very idea that it's harming the resource, or, hurting someone's favorite fishing spots, really is absurd.
There are only so many anglers in the state. If there are more folks fishing at one location, there are less people fishing at the others. So, again, figure out what lakes hold good populations of fish, hone your skills, study a lake map, and get after them. For people that are already experienced anglers, that's not a problem. But for those just starting out, it can be a bit overwhelming.
I'll continue to get out fishing when I can, and when I do, I'll provide a relatively complete account of it, for beginners, pros, and everyone in between, who come to this site, to do with it what they will. You're always going to find WHINERS, who excuse things that they really should be complaining about, but sound off unjustly, if things hit, a little too close to home. As others have posted here, it's why some of the long time members have either stopped posting reports, or, rarely sound off, because of the ignorance and insults, that sometimes permeates these sites. Take care, and best of luck.
cookster, thanks for flipping the pic around for me. My I-Phone does some weird things, like, it isn't set to take JPEG format photos, so, I have to convert them, in order to post here and elsewhere. Sometimes they appear upright, and sometimes, on their side, despite being taken the exact same way.
I asked if what you were saying was a shot, because across my 3 posts, almost shockingly, there have been quite a few of them. Again, thanks for flipping the pic around. In the future, I'll try to take more pics of the nice ones. The 4#er was the last fish of the day, we were tired, and now that I think of it, when my fishing buddy was measuring the fish, I did ask if he wanted a pic, as, it was the biggest of the day, but as I've said, he's caught a lot of big ones and replied, "Naw, I'm just gonna' turn it back". Then again, if I post too many, some hyper critical folks here, will again accuse me of bragging, smh. Take care and best of luck.
Nice fish. All I will say is this, you guys on the front range and eastern plains have very limited fishing resources, all your bodys of water are pretty darn small in the overall scheme of things, even aurora, jumbo, sterling, etc are TINY lakes. If you dont believe me try traveling the united states a little, your lakes are tiny with a huge population center close by. Blow it up all you want, but dont play it off like these are big bodys of water and thereby not susceptible to over fishing.
Reply by: Ryan Posted: May. 30, 9:32:22 PM Points: 2423
I’ve been going to North Sterling since the mid 80’s - long before it was a state park.
We arrived Friday afternoon to the North boat ramp. Usually on a Friday there are a half dozen boat trailers in the parking lot. This day there were maybe a half dozen open parking spots.
Saturday morning by 800 there wasn’t a single parking spot. Trailers were parked on the grass. The Rangers finally came over and started directing people to the South ramp.
Today was CONSIDERABLY busier than I have ever seen the lake before - including the Holiday weekends. Probably has something to do with so many people not working. But I also suspect that it has to do with posts like this.
There is no way that this amount of pressure won’t have a dramatic effect on any lake.
Yea Ryan . Who would have guessed ? But if you read fishinbud’s reply . The fact that it’ s 2-3 hrs from metro Denver . Makes the idea of hot spotting it absurd . I go out that way shooting prairie dog and it’ s a day trip for me. My wife and I go to Windsor (60 mi one way ) Just to enjoy dinner at one of our favorite restaurants .Folks in Denver aren’t afraid to put on some miles to have fun . Whoda thunk it !
I have been folllwing fish explorer for about 5 years now. Just last month i signed up for FXR+. My main reason for this was to have access to the journal so i could notate my fishing experiences. hopefully over the next few years i can put some trends together to make myself a better fisherman. Yes i could use a paper and pencil or another computer.program or site. This site has been so good that i didnt even think twice about doing anything else. However, i could have continued on the free side and got most of the info i need from the site itself and those who post. I havent been around long enough or know any back ground at all regarding the history of the site and the reason for a free side vs. Paid subscription. I also dont know what other sites are out there like fish explorer. Do you think restricting the free side of the website further would prevent some of these posts? I mean if your willing to pay $40 or whatever and so is everyone else "to share info" then we are all in the same boat. Whether you think sharing is a wise move thats your opinion. At least it would prevent none paying participants from getting almost all the same info the paid members get.
Reply by: FisherMatt Posted: May. 31, 12:04:59 AM Points: 46
So, on the hot spotting. I fish a lake in Kansas for crappie. I have some family there and have been lucky enough over the years to make some good friends. About every 4 years the lake gets really hot. That's because when it heats up and word gets out, people flock there. Pretty much all catchable crappies are removed from the lake in a matter of weeks. It then takes about 4 years to recover, if they have water. The time will come when it doesn't recover. They don't even have fish explorer, this is just from word of mouth. By posting this kind of "help", you are helping to decimate a fishery. I have seen it time and again. People will drive hundreds of miles for a crappie. I guarantee they will go a couple hours for the most sought after game fish in the region. I was really looking forward to hitting Sterling this week but will probably pass now. Maybe I'll head to a new lake and put in some homework of my own so I can learn a fishery. Then I'll share it with some family and a few close friends and hope it doesn't turn into something like this. If it does, I'll head out to do some more of my own homework and figure some things out, all the while being sure not to decimate a fishery for someone else.
Reply by: FishHuntNow Posted: May. 31, 10:20:29 AM Points: 416
I didn't even ask anyone for help but just followed the dirty water and found shallow water fingers, bays and coves and ended up with 80 walleye, 16 crappie and 8 wiper, ALL fished were released. Most walleye averaged 18 to 21 inches. I am able to get into these numbers because I have GPS spot lock and always map my routes I do well in. Almost every East lakes for walleye or West lakes for lakers I have figured out the years on my own without a guide or some forum people to help me figure out. What makes fishing a beauty in my opinion is the challenge to figure it all out! I don't mind when someone tells me about a lake that has nice fish but I will NEVER ask them to tell me where to go.
In another post you asked if I was mad. Nah, I'm not mad, I think it's great that our senior citizens get out to fish and enjoy it and catch them selves meal. I was more so disappointed about everything else, but I'm not your daddy lol so it doesn't matter if i'm disappointed or not. You do you boo. )
Same $h!+ different day. Yeah, I'm rolling my eyes here. Now you're just trolling, and not the kind you do from a boat. :-\ It's clear we're never going to agree that what you're doing is hot spotting. I have to wonder if the other fishermen you spoke to had known that you were going to take their PERSONAL advice and post it all over the internet, whether they still would have chosen to tell you what they did. Unlikely.
The population of this state has, and is, exploding. I used to post more helpful reports here, but it became clear it was harming the fisheries. Just like this one will.
I was personally out fishing and camping this weekend as well, and was sickened by the crowding we found on Thursday afternoon at some of our usual spots. So instead, we chose to go somewhere completely new to us, found more crowds than we expected even there, but few folks were fishing. We did well for a new lake, landed plenty of fish, and even kept a few for a fish fry at camp. But I'm sure as H-E-double-hockey-sticks NOT going to blow that fishery up online now. LMAO and SMDH.
BTW, the reason some of the OG's of this site aren't posting here anymore aren't for the reasons you might suspect, bud.