Post By: motoxxx43 Posted: 5/20/2020 3:39:24 PMPoints: 2353
not quite sure whats going on out at Turkey Creek but it appears they are fixing to block of the road that heads to the Turkey Creek lower basin. There were more boulders behind the loader, they were not on the road but who knows whats going on. Loader was parked there at 10a this morning.
Hey moto, its pretty sad how much "shore access" that this state park and state wildlife area (SWA) has restricted, i have fished this lake for 20 years and every year it seems that there is less access. Cant fish next to the dam (9/11) shut down the "old boat ramps" on the south side shoreline (peck creek cove i think) shut down the old boat ramps on the north maintenance road, blocked off the area west of the old boat ramps on the north side ( placed boulders around the lot ) dug the "trench" at the south turkey creek parking, and now if they "block off" the turkey creek basin parking lot..... heck ive even seen the "boulders " block off the swallows parking area about 10 years ago! What about the outlet area just in front and on the north side of the spillway, cant fish the either...!!!
Just make the (SWA) area access require a parks pass to enter, instead of closing everything to "force" everyone to purchase a parks pass and fish the state park area.
Spoke with a CPW officer today at the beginning of the dirt SWA road. Basically all the changes going on are do to people trashing the place. As we know the SWAs are funded from hunting and fishing licenses. They are working towards people purchasing licenses in order to utilize the SWA. Currently anyone can go out there and mountain bike, hike, use the place as a dog park, dump yard debris or old couches, live out of their vehicle, shoot firearms, sell drugs, tag the train bridge, have bon fires and party, etc the list goes on and on. All of those mentioned activities work against hunting and fishing which is what that area is actually for. So they are cracking down on the use after dark and are going to be enforcing the "access after dark for fishing only" policy thats clearly printed at the entrance.
He said they also closed some of the roads on the south side SWA citing cliff jumpers and illegal dumping. If i make it out that way I'll update what roads are closed.
I made my way out there today, basically what moto mentioned is correct, the CPW is cracking down on folks who are trashing the area, as most of it is during after light hours, they only allowing people who are only fishing to access that area after dark.
There is a Warden posted up in the parking lot to the side of the main entrance road. They will be asking everyone who enters what they are there for. If its just " bird watching" etc.. they will inform you that the area "closes" at dark, they will be patrolling the two main area's (ill get to that next) throughout the night to enforce the policies. Also, currently they are only allowing 100 cars to access.
Now the bad, they did in fact close the road west of the gravel pit. There are large boulders and a sign reads "no motorized vehicles beyond this point" so you can not access the turkey creek parking lots, both the lower and upper unless you walk in.
When i asked how long that the turkey creek area would be closed, well it didn't sound like they are going to open it anytime soon.
Also on another bad note, he said they have closed areas on the south shoreline off Hwy 96 because of complaints of people cliff diving.
Reply by: motoxxx43 Posted: May. 26, 5:05:05 AM Points: 2353
Wow... the road closure at the gravel pits seems extremely drastic! Thats got to make it a 2 mile hike round trip from those boulders to Turkey Creek. I know there are other access points to get back there on foot that are closer but thats not at all practical from either way. The cap at 100 vehicles is an interesting mention. Not sure where that number comes from but I'm sure there is a lot more room back there than 100 vehicles can occupy. I mean, thats a lot of shore line and land in general. I'm guessing they are hoping to get more traffic through the state park booth. Itll be interesting to see how this all plays out though Im not excited about the road closures. It'll congest the other easier access areas even more.
Reply by: kirbydog Posted: May. 26, 7:50:02 AM Points: 82
I've fished Pueblo since right after the reservoir opened and can't help but notice the increase in trash around the shoreline. People fish and then leave all their trash behind-too lazy to pick up after themselves.
I was never raised that way, would never think of leaving trash behind but as said-our state is becoming a different place then it used to be.
And people dumping furniture etc-what kind of person even does that?
you can still fish there if your not to lazy to make the walk I routinely walk multiple miles every time I fish. and I end up finding spots that most boat fisherman don't find and most shore fisherman are too lazy to make the walk. so if your like me than this could make the fishing better for those areas that are closed off to vehicles
believe it or not, I visited a remote area 65 years ago that looked like i was the first person to ever set foot in the area, and 2 years later it was totally trashed with everything imaginable. So its not something new....So sad.
Like IFF, Iíve also witnessed the deterioration of this Wildlife area for several years as well. As of late, the situation has gotten way out of hand. I guess I was brought up in an entirely different manner, and taught to respect the environment, and not use it like a trash dump or graffiti canvas. I agree with the walk-in access, even though Iím getting up in age, but if someone doesnít care about trashing an area, what are they going to do to my vehicle when I park it to fish some evening? I sincerely hope LE catches some of these lowlifes in the act, and prosecutes them to the full extent of the law. The situation is sad indeed!
I've seen the sign but haven't stopped to read it yet. If what Moto says is true then we should still be able to access it after dark for fishing only. Is that correct?
If it is correct, then I'm OK with limiting access at night. I fish alone a lot at night and never have felt completely safe from humans once I get within 100 yards of my truck. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way!
I always referred to the north shore SWA as the "Mad Max" zone.