Post By: yard dogs Posted: 4/3/2020 9:11:11 AMPoints: 682
So I am hearing that they are only allowing Gunnison county residents fish Blue Mesa... Isnt that Federal ground? How could they stop me from taking my family? Is this not still a free country? Do we no longer have rights?
Just to be clear here - I am not wanting to be around anyone. Social distancing at its finest. My family has been in the house for 3 weeks straight and my boys want to get out. I am not traveling far at all - Blue is 45 minutes from my house.
I live in Montrose and am still working everyday. I have seen first hand everyday people from Gunnison county in Montrose shopping in busy stores buying anything from milk to metal, but yet we can not go fish 96 miles of shoreline by ourselves in Gunnison County? How the EFF is that?
Reply by: SGM Posted: Apr. 3, 10:12:24 AM Points: 13624
I looked on the Curecanti Web page and it states nothing like this. Visitor Center is closed and a few areas due to flowers and Falcons. I think this is another attempt form some folks that think they are funny or just plain twisted to stop people from going. Something like the info about CPW a few days back. As stated these are public Federal lands not Gunnison County lands.
Reply by: Yotepounder Posted: Apr. 3, 10:27:23 AM Points: 12
Not a lot of medical staff or equipment for the sick over there. They donít need any extra problems. Legal or not why not just stay home like they are asking? You drive across the state to fish and get into a car accident. Now staff and equipment have to be taken and used on you. The people working in these hospitals are doing a job that I wouldnít want. No masks no help just people dying daily. If staying away from a distant lake might help them to get a little break or flatten the curve is that to much to ask? Gonna be all mad when they just shut it all down cause some people think they are special or itís just to boring at home.
Reply by: GSOutfitters Posted: Apr. 3, 11:11:40 AM Points: 186
The Gunnison Community is fragile right now. We have one of the highest infected rates per capita in the US!! Our 1st responders, clinics and hospitals are in danger of maxing out. Its not about the lake at all, its about letting Gunnison climb out of its hole before it gets too bad. Any unnecessary/avoidable medical emergencies just add to the problem. Our grocery stores and hardware stores are constantly sold out of essential supplies and many distributors are not running routes here now, so supplies are not refilling as rapidly. This forces some Gunnison people to go to Montrose or Salida to shop, for "essential" travel. I'm sure once out of this valley, some spend extra time pleasure shopping or vacationing for the day, but the main reason for their travel outside of Gunnison is essential...
Reply by: Yotepounder Posted: Apr. 3, 11:25:57 AM Points: 12
Yard dogs I see what you are saying only 40 miles isnít a lot. You just wouldnít want a accident where an ambulance was used, gloves ,masks , doctors there just arenít enough. In Utah I heard that five o was just running plates to see if you were local or not. I get the fishing thing I miss it. But we donít wanna make it worse. I think they will close it all no matter what everybody does. One less thing to worry about on the governments end. Good luck out there.
Contrary to popular beliefs, this is still America. Fish where you want. I am. Of course, I donít really care about or believe the media hype. Do some homework. This ďpandemicĒ is nothing more than politicians and the media trying to force socialism on us. Donít believe me? Like I said, do some homework.
"The Gunnison Community is fragile right now. We have one of the highest infected rates per capita in the US!!"
I've heard this is the case, and I'm sorry to hear it. Is the state of Colorado even advocating for your community? Are you seeing any real help coming? If not, why don't community leaders circumvent the state government and go right to the feds? Or is the help and orchestrated outrage from certain leaders in CO only reserved for urban areas for certain reasons?
As for the "don't come here" order, it's nothing more than a request. On the same note, I'd like to request that people from other states don't come to CO, especially right now.
@ aresgraphix, Itís difficult for me to comprehend how easy it is for someone to disregard the safety and well-being of another over their own interests. Itís not about ďSocialismĒ, media hypocrisy, or politics. Cove-19 is real, and as nasty as the statistics show it to be. I have a daughter on the front lines who has experienced this pandemic first hand. With all due respect, Iíve also done my homework!
Yard dogs, getting your info from FB is pretty unreliable, as is the message from FB that you posted. There's still 10-11" of ice at Iola! So if that, most important piece of information is inaccurate, so would everything else in the message.
What I'm getting is that nobody wants to talk about travelling and recreation. In the future, I'll keep my keyboard shut when I go fishing outside of my own yard.
I'm staying in Chaffee County until the SIP order is suspended.
aresgraphix, I would agree that with common sense and limited contact that one can go fishing with no issues, as it is maybe the only exercise some get but this thing about denying what is a real situation and being forced into socialism and then saying, "do the homework", is for conspiracy theorist nuts. Everything from social security that your folks rely or relied on, to farm subsidies, to the bailout or countless welfare items of your sacred private sector, are examples of socialized policies. Please get a clue.
Reply by: aresgraphix Posted: 12:32:13 PM Points: 169 Contrary to popular beliefs, this is still America. Fish where you want. I am. Of course, I donít really care about or believe the media hype. Do some homework. This ďpandemicĒ is nothing more than politicians and the media trying to force socialism on us. Donít believe me? Like I said, do some homework.
Just stay home and letís get this frigginí thing taken care of. Jeez children, letís buck-up, deal with a little inconvenience, turn this ship around and get back to work and then go fish wherever we want to. Letís not have to do this all over again....
OMG , stay the heck home. really feel bad for you that you cannot go catch some fish. Stay in your own county you can handle it ! really don't be so selfish at a time like this. Chipeta is open if l you need to get outside. Gunnison people got hit hard with this thing, let them have some time.
Doesnít this seem ass backwards how this was implemented?
They have the highest rate for a county in the US based on a previous post. Shouldnít the county be completely quarantined? No people in or out?
If I lived in one of the surrounding countyís I wouldnít want anybody from Gunnison coming to my city based on their infection numbers. If they need food the state can ship it in like they have done in other places.
It is kind of like us telling Wyoming that we are no longer allowing people from Wyoming into Colorado because of our super high infection rate. But it is alright for Coloradans to go to Wyoming because the rates are low.
So, we were notified today that ďBecause of widespread presence of deadly Coronavirus, Colorado has extended the stay at home order through April 26thĒ.
I guess that government officials, after collecting, sifting through and thoroughly analyzing all available data on COVID-19, have determined that current conditions require the extension of the order.
That being the case, then perhaps TPTB can tell us what are the specific, quantifiable and objective criteria regarding COVID-19 infections, infection rates, hospitalizations, recoveries and deaths that are to be used when determining when they will rescind the order?
Reply by: HalfCurl Posted: Apr. 24, 10:24:19 AM Points: 0
Don't you just hate when politics interferes with fishing? I do. This is nothing but a pile pushed to swallow. As of yesterday, 4/23/20, the Gunnison county numbers were reported as 100 cases reported. There have been 4 deaths.
Reply by: bigbear57 Posted: Apr. 24, 10:48:03 AM Points: 766
I am not sure that they can restrict fishing at blue mesa. All access is off of a us hwy(50) and it is a national recreation area. Same thing in costilla county limiting access to state lands. If anybody knows more on this please post.
Reply by: NoNick Posted: Apr. 24, 11:01:33 AM Points: 58
Costilla county has 3, yes THREE cases so far, and no info whatsoever on when those cases were found. If you really want to get into the weeds, inform yourself, and make an educated judgement on whether or not the restrictions in Gunnison county are reasonable, here you go: