Just watching videos and daydreaming about the spring to come. I have never fished Spinney and read that there was a regulation against fishing "near the dam" but I saw a couple videos that showed the dam right behind the float tubes or boats so I was a little confused. Apparently you can fish right next to the dam in a float tube, am I correct?
Reply by: i2fly Posted: Mar. 7, 7:59:38 AM Points: 1854
I think the whole reasoning that walking on the riprap will damage it is B/S. There for itís no longer allowed. Lol they should just be real about it. Itís about liability of a fall, and not damaging effects of a person walking. The waves driven by high winds are far more damaging than any person could ever be. But to your point as long as your not on the riprap your fine. However caution should be observed sudden high winds could push a float tube into the rocks. If you were too close.... Not a good situation.
Reply by: SirGreg88 Posted: Mar. 7, 2:02:46 PM Points: 44
Thats what they told me at Spinney also. Before they closed it I was fishing the dam late one afternoon. Was not feeling well that day so I tucked my small backpack full of flies and gear where nobody could find it in the boulders--planning on going back to the same place the next morning. I went back as they opened the gate the next morning. It was gone! The rangers saw me looking and yelled at me from their truck. They had been spyglassing me intently the day before .Be extra careful up there in Park County if you have a beer to drink etc. The saying up there is true. Arrive on vacation and leave on probation. Dont get me wrong. I appreciate what they do but dang!!! Eyeballs everywhere.
Reply by: Smelly Posted: Mar. 7, 5:53:20 PM Points: 23141
Was told the same thing as Wingman 13 By Rangers at Carter. Used to fish there lots. Most of the better shore fishing was by the dams ( if memory serves me right . Carter has 4 ) . haven't fished there much after that.
Reply by: panfishin Posted: Mar. 9, 12:54:34 PM Points: 7902
I have heard much of the same that it was a post 9/11 deal...but then again I have never called or emailed to verify anything. I have wanted to get down there in my kayak to fish along the dam and the coves on the southwest corner but for some reason I just get sucked into staying on the north half of the lake.
Reply by: beewee Posted: Mar. 24, 12:26:33 PM Points: 0
Well Sir Gregg maybe you should. I have a Pepperidge Farm business and I work for KingSoopers. I work in 9 stores and I donít see anybody dropping like flies. Everyone seems pretty healthy to me. I could be wrong but I think we all need to step back and realize that itís not that bad. I drive I-70 everyday and that scares me more than the virus.
Reply by: skiman Posted: Mar. 24, 1:19:47 PM Points: 2321
First off, not fishing off the dam is a small price to pay for access to a fantastic fishery like Spinney, so the reasons why it isnít allowed are irrelevant. Second, although some of the reactions to COVID-19 are on both ends of the spectrum, we are definitely facing a serious situation that some folks see fit to minimize. I have a daughter in health care and on the front lines. I worry about her and her colleagues each and every day, so please donít tell me the situation isnít a big deal! Every single one of us should heed the warnings and restrictions regarding the Corona Virus and act accordingly,
Reply by: SirGreg88 Posted: Mar. 24, 2:25:19 PM Points: 44
I understand both sides of the argument. We should do our part to slow/prevent the spread. This is not WW4 and I don't think we need Marshall Law just yet. When we have big events it seems the Govt takes away freedoms which are never returned. Oh yeah--to protect us.
Reply by: devon234 Posted: Mar. 24, 4:33:04 PM Points: 168
the virus is bad for people who have immune system problems and people with lung issues. im not saying that it doesn't affect people in a bad way but when you consider that 44,000 people in the U.S. die in a year from the flue alone it isn't as bad as what people are making it out to be. A lot of people that get it aren't really that sick. the media is really responsible for a lot of the hysteria around the virus. SARS was more deadly than this virus but less contagious. I think people should treat it like the flue because people with compromised immune systems have just as hard of a time with the flu. It is just a new virus that people don't know about so people get scared about things they don't know about. Again im not saying that it isn't a big deal but it isn't as bad as other diseases that swept across the world. I just don't remember when other new viruses infected people, that there was this much hysteria around it.
Reply by: nparker Posted: Mar. 24, 4:44:34 PM Points: 1299
I agree that the virus possibly has not justified some of the precautions that we are asked to consider. This is not the biggest concern. I am not looking at the numbers of infections but the growth curve. It is growing very fast. This can result in an overload of patients that our overworked health care people will not be able to handle. Supplies and equipment may be a problem. People over 60 are much likelier to die, especially if there is not enough medical help available. If you care about your grandparents and all of us please take all precautions seriously. Otherwise, spin the wheel and wait to see what happens. We don't want to copy Italy. Thanks for reading.
Reply by: SirGreg88 Posted: Mar. 24, 4:54:34 PM Points: 44
Oops. There I did it. I said I would never talk about anything besides fishing--and bad humor. Comparing the black and white statistics encourages and leads to optimism. Watching the entire local news segment with 8 minutes of people scurrying in hazmat suits makes you want to hide in the closet until they tell you "IT'S SAFE". What should be alarming to everyone is how few people(or businesses for that matter) have a single months worth of liquid savings--or how many people loaded their portfolio with aggressive variable investments. No base of cash with conservative guarantees. Would someone--anyone please help ski out with a few examples? I don't wanna................
Reply by: shiverfix Posted: Mar. 24, 5:11:24 PM Points: 3753
I didn't want to get into it here, but I feel like I should. You can't compare deaths of flu to covid, because the number of infected people is much lower right now. That would be like saying the flu is more dangerous than ebola, and we know that isn't true. Approximate numbers, but yes, 44,000 people died of the flu last flu season. Out of 49 million people who had it. We are at officially 44,000 cases of covid, though I'm sure the number is much higher. Depending on if we see a death rate like South Korea or that of Italy, if 49 million people were to get it, you are talking 500,000 to nearly 2 million dead. That is the concern.
My wife is in the command center at a local hospital, and gets to see what is going on first hand, and gets to see the decisions regarding health care that are being made. My daughter is a pharm tech who is patient facing, so I worry for her. My ex and a high school friend are both immunologists, so while I am by no means an expert, I have people around me who are.
Here is a link to a blog that has been floating around, with information on who wrote it, to give you an idea of why covid is scary.
Reply by: nparker Posted: Mar. 24, 5:16:12 PM Points: 1299
It would be great if we could treat Covid 19 like the flu. Unfortunately we don't have the vaccine nor the medications for Covid 19. When you get the virus all they can do is try to get air into what is left of your lungs. Not a pretty way to die or even be sick. I am taking advantage of the personal separation suggestion by doing lots of fishing.
Reply by: devon234 Posted: Mar. 24, 5:49:35 PM Points: 168
im not saying there isn't an issue and I agree with the pneumonia situation but I used the flue as an example because it is considered as raspatory illness even though it makes you sick to your stomach. The good thing about fishing is that you don't want to be around people anyways. I have always wanted a little pike like that to keep in an aquarium.