Post By: rodmans Posted: 10/8/2019 8:08:47 AMPoints: 5763
I was checking in at the inspection station at Antero Res., saturday and was told a retired man sunk his boat on the dam late friday. Apparently he ran out of gas, then the 4 foot rollers blown him to the dam face were the waves and rocks turned his boat over and sank. His tolling motor was not enough to help him, he was wet and cold and almost did not get noticed, until the end of the day. They close the lake at 6 oclock and someone noticed that a truck and boat trailer was still in the parking area. So never run out of gas!
Reply by: longdraw Posted: 10/8/2019 9:06:36 AM Points: 509
I spoke with the gentleman Saturday am he was very down. They were getting a crane and dragging it up the dam face Sunday am. Total loss but the man was alive and that is what matters. *Always know the limitations of your equipment and never press them.
I agree with not to old to fish...glad the man survived. This was an unfortunate incident, and I feel bad for the gentleman. Reminding people to “not run out of gas” or “knowing the limits of you equipment” doesn’t help things.
Great response skiman! You are insinuating that the OP and myself don't feel sorry for the man, but how could you possibly know that? I spoke to him on the dock as he returned from the water making sure his boat was still secured to the rocks where he left it the night before. How about you go take your boat out, run out of gas and push your equipment past their limits and report back here to let us know how it went.
It sure does help to remind anyone by saying not to run out of gas and to know your equipment to be diligent while on the water so these things or worse can be avoided! Glad hes ok. Anyone know if he ran out of gas no fault of his own??
@ WTH - He was unaware of the amount of gas he had but, he got all the way to the area outside of the ramp jetty on gas motor where he ran out. At that point he tried to get the rest of the way (maybe 200 yds) by trolling motor but his unit and battery(s) were not sufficient in the 35MPH sustained winds that were out of the south at the time. The wind then carried him all the way to the middle section of the dam face.
I apologize. My point was not to offend either you, or the op, but that I found the nature of the editorial comments insensitive. The issue here was the loss the individual suffered and how fortunate he was to escape further harm. Again, I apologize if my post led you to believe you didn’t care about what happened to the man. That certainly wasn’t case.
"Reminding people to “not run out of gas” or “knowing the limits of you equipment” doesn’t help things." Yeah, it actually does help. Maybe not the dude who ran out of gas, but people need to hear it. There are few things you can control when fishing, but the readiness of your boat is absolutely one of them. People need to know fishing in South Park is not like going out pond fishing, its serious business. I was actually at Spinney that same Saturday and opted not to go out. I think my boat would have done fine, but it just didn't seem like it was going to be a good time out.
@jdavis yes, sir! Thanks for chiming in. I was on 11mile that day and stayed out just as long as I was comfortable staying (based on my vessel and corresponding equipment). I know my limitations and that's why my boat is currently safe in my garage as am I.
Reply by: Hawaiian Punch Posted: 10/9/2019 2:35:23 AM Points: 6377
South park is a wind tunnel,fueled by gravity. Yup . . .gravity. The wind picks up speed as it is pulled down hill by gravity.I've fished South park since the early 70s in a boat and learned that its safer to run to closest shore and sit out the blowing,than try to return to the boat ramp. I've sat out the 2-3pm winds at all three south park lakes and am no worse for wear. BTW . . .If the guy was out in 4ft rollers,he had already lost the battle.No amount of gas would have helped him. One must know one's limitations! You have heard me rant about boat ramp fun,go watch the ramp at any of the South park lakes when the 2-3pm wind comes up . . . instead of waiting it out there will always be somebody that has to try to load out during the afternoon wind storm.Its a show worth watching!!!!!
Reply by: rodmans Posted: 10/9/2019 8:07:02 AM Points: 5763
I was very happy to hear that the man was OK. I do believe it is a personal responsibility to maintain your boat including being aware of your fuel levels and it is my thinking you are liable if your boat comes too close to another boat, hits another or if you are acting irresponsibly by not following boating regulations. This mans boat could have crashed into the dock, into another boat, out of control, endangering the lives of others, if the wind was pushing towards the dock ( did he try to use his anchor). Boating safety is a concern for everyone on the water. Boaters can keep themselves and their passengers safe by learning about responsible boat operation, etiquette, and the rules of the waterways. An educated boater is a safer boaters. Make sure you have enough fuel before casting off. Operating at two-thirds throttle instead of full throttle will conserve fuel. One-third to get out One-third to get back One-third in reserve for emergencies The following rule will help prevent running out of fuel: Before going out on a boat or PWC, it is always a good idea to tell someone where you are going and ask them to take action if you fail to return on time. Where instruction was known, 74% of deaths occurred on boats where the operator did not receive boating safety instruction. Only 18% percent of deaths occurred on vessels where the operator had received a nationally-approved boating safety education certificate. At lakes where jet skis, skiers and fishing boat are on the same lake, I have experienced the close proximity of those and many times they are way too close to my boat and people fishing on the shore.
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: 10/9/2019 11:39:14 AM Points: 4364
It doesn’t matter if it’s a boat a car or an aircraft, the only time you have too much fuel is when your on fire. A good rule of thumb is to always have one third more fuel than you need for your trip. I personally fill the 33oz. Tank on my little outboard every time I put it on the toon. Glad he was not injured, yes, the South Park lakes deserve respect more than once I’ve cautioned folks who seem to think catching a fish is more important than personal safety. Bill
I'm glad he's ok. You can cover all of your bases but sometimes stuff just happens. Back in the 80's I went to Cherry Creek by myself on a nice calm/warm sunny day. By 2pm the wind came up and the next thing you know my 16' trihull loaded itself up on the trailer backwards and cross wise on the bunks and with a thud when the motor hit the winch bar. I fought like the dickens to get it back off and turned around. Sometimes outings can start out perfect and end up being the worst day of your life. I think a good rule to follow may be to avoid solo outings on a boat. You just never know.
Reply by: shiverfix Posted: 10/11/2019 8:58:46 AM Points: 3702
Before I had the electric trolling motor, my engine stalled and wouldn't restart on Cherry Creek. There was just enough wind to push me up onto the dam. Luckily someone was there to keep me from banging the rocks, and was able to get the boat restarted.
On Williams Fork our stern drive went out. I did have the trolling motor then, but was still able to limp back to the dock. It was late season and there were maybe 2 other boats on the water.
Things happen. Everyone on here has had something happen that someone could point at and say, you should have known better. That is how we learn.
Reply by: setzdahook Posted: 10/11/2019 10:36:00 AM Points: 35
I ran out of gas at Spinney a couple years ago in my 16' Tracker, about 3/4 of the way down past the bluffs toward the inlet, needing to get back to the South Ramp. Of course, the wind instantly came up out of the South. So...we used the trolling motor against the wind and and hour later arrived at the ramp. Since that day the tank is always full when I hit the water. Thank goodness it didn't happen the day I needed to get back, going with the waves that were two feet taller than the top of my motor! Throttle back to avoid plowing into the wave in front immediately hit the throttle again to avoid being swamped from behind....woo!
Setsdahook: Imagine that one with a 17 ft boat and 30 ft waves in the Pacific Ocean. That's what I had to deal with coming in from 10 miles outside the Golden Gate Bridge down the ship channel. One moment the seas were kind of average, then in the channel, monster waves suddenly were on me where my entire boat was surrounded by foam at the crest of a 30 ft. wave. It was a 3 story drop from the bow of my boat to the sea below. In desperation, I decided to use my boat as a surf board, riding out the crest of each wave and catching the next, as you describe. Took me 2 1/2 hrs. to get to the Bridge, during which time any little mistake would have been curtains for me and my wife. Life is short if you capsize in 52 degree water. Oh, and I was totally on my own. I called the Coast Guard and all they cared about was my VHF radio call number for their record book, They never even called back to see if I made it.
A number of people loose their lives in that place every year. Once, years later I came on an overturned 25 ft Boston Whaler that I remembered was assumed lost at sea a couple days earlier, killing all members of a family of 5. Again, the Coast Guard, when called on it, never came out to check on it at all, as I fished around there the rest of the day and got my limit of king salmon. With the old salvage laws of the high seas that where still in effect, I could have towed that Boston Whaler back to the dock and taken it for myself. It's a savage place out there, and you are definitely on your own. High risk is a necessary price for those who love fishing such places. Up north, I believe it was Coos Bay launch ramp, they have a big stone monument next to the launch ramp with the many, many names of those who never made it back to that ramp.
It still amazes me when I see people launching a small canoe on these South Park lakes. They just don't know how fast it can White-cap. The key is to stick close to the shoreline especially to which way the wind is going to blow.
Reply by: Lund aka Dingo Man Posted: 10/17/2019 10:35:44 AM Points: 10
The S. Park winds are scary. I check the weather forecast and don't go if the winds are predicted to be strong. And if I am on the water and the wind starts, I get off.
A small investment is a pair of oars and oar locks, if your boat will accommodate them. I have a pair on my boat. I have rowed many boats over the years, and one can make a lot of progress with them. I would guess many of the bigger boats would not have this ability, in which case another motor would be good as a back up.
I have a electric trollling motor as well, with two batteries, but would not trust it if I had to go against S. Park winds. I could get farther with oars, at least to a place where it would be safe to beach the boat. Maybe a more powerful electric motor would solve this problem.
As far as the gentleman who lost his boat, "there but for the grace of God go I."
Reply by: Fish Stalker 77 Posted: 10/19/2019 7:59:02 AM Points: 0
I agree with waiting out the winds on the lee shore as well. It almost always calms down before sunset. I also carry a 1 gallon reserve tank in case I somehow run out of gas. If that or some other motor failure happens and the wind is pushing your boat towards shore, anchor from the bow to give you time to deal with the issue. Don’t anchor from the stern since that can sink your boat.