Post By: glwolfe Posted: 9/4/2019 4:10:23 PMPoints: 0
I've seen very few posts about the fall run, alot of it seems really dated (charlie meyers old articles, a few random posts from older guys talking about the runs in the spring and fall back in the 80's,90's). Curious if any old timers or anyone whose spent some time out there during the shoulder seasons the last few years could shed some light on it. Not looking to fish redds, just lookin at the map wondering. Any info on ideal flows and temps/dates(later than the dream?earlier?)
At the risk of admitting to being an Old Timer, The brown spawn is the only source of browns for Spinney, so it needs to be protected, and Sept is the month it happens. They don't spawn in that mile or so up from the lake like the rainbows do - they travel up further. CPW tried closing parts of the MF in Sept to protect the redds, but I think it was more of an experiment than a true conservation tool. And it hardly mattered b/c so few people fished there in Sept.(or any time of the year, actually. The Platte from Fairplay to Spinney is the most under-utilized river in the state, IMO.) The browns on redds aren't sitting ducks like the bows are - they'll see you and light out long before you spot them. All you'll see is a wake. All in all, there are much better places to fish in Sept. The river itself fishes a lot better in July & Aug.
The river gets real skinny between Fairplay and Spinney, but there are deep holes and runs that hold nice browns. This time of year the water gets beyond crystal clear and the browns will spot you a mile away so stealth is a key factor. But there are large ones, look especially for the undercut banks where they hide out of sight. I won't say exactly where, but this brown was caught last fall somewhere between Hartsel and Spinney on public water
Reply by: glwolfe Posted: 9/5/2019 6:26:49 AM Points: 0
First off, thanks to both of you. I’m all about the conservation aspect and have kept very few trout since starting to fly fish, and even then only stocked lake holdovers while camping, so always looking conserve the big guys that sustain the population. Being an old timer that shares info, thanks for passing on your hard earned knowledge. That’s a nice fish man. Must’ve been alone that day huh? I’ll take a hero shot occasionally but have so many videos like that when I’ve been alone, they’re just as satisfying to rewatch again and again. Did you take him on a nymph or streamer?
Reply by: Wacokid57 Posted: 9/10/2019 11:15:33 AM Points: 11
The fisheries biologist Jeff Spohn once told me that the brown trout population crashed years when CPW stopped stocking so many rainbows in Spinney throughout the season. The pike turned to eating juvenile brown trout. Now that we have perch in the lake for the pike to eat, the browns could be building back up. They used to spawn in great numbers in the riffles and gravel beds in Tomahawk State Wildlife Area. Maybe that will return. September is the month for that spawning run. Good luck from an Old Timer!
Just a question... If the browns are spawning in the Hartsel to Spinney run, Tomahawk, or any other area in the fall, why is it so important to target them? Wouldn’t it make more sense to leave those areas untouched so they could “do their thing” and continue the propagation of the species? The same goes for those who specifically fish the bass beds in the spring, and oh yeah, don’t forget the “Kokanee Carnage” at Almont every fall.
skiman, you are very correct. However so many "sportsmen" nowadays know their best chance at getting their hero shot is when fish are spawning and easy to spot and target....
really do wish the state would close more stretches for spawn, esp of trout
one reason for instance a river like the dream doesnt get shut..might be because people will be walking thru the redds all year...imo it would only work if they closed the river (and similar rivers) all winter long into early spring for browns.
Reply by: Wacokid57 Posted: 9/11/2019 10:12:08 AM Points: 11
Ethical sportsmen fishing during a spawning run fish barbless, do not target fish actually on redds, watch their step in the river to avoid redds, and use heavier than normal tackle to ensure a quick release. If you follow these guidelines, you can catch a huge lake fish in a stream that normally would not be available to most fisherman. And, you can do it with minimal impact to spawning success.
Reply by: Night stalker Posted: 9/11/2019 1:38:20 PM Points: 3
Good afternoon, it's that time of the year hunting and fishing does it get any better. What's really funny is some people say don't fish when they are on the redds spring or fall, fish the deep holes or under the cut banks. But you have to under stand that if you catch a big trout in those places there's a good chance it's the same fish that is on those redds earlier or later in the day, it just got spooked. Big brown trout are super weary, and in the fall the water is low and clear and they see you coming and go hide out. Just do like I do and just fish the lakes at night from about September 20 thru October 15. They also will try to spawn in the lakes along the gravel shore lines. You can't be a sissy when you fish south park at night this time of the year. Put some warm cloths on and go catch that giant you have been dreaming about.