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Lake: Soda Lakes

Angler harassment seeking advice

Post By: Chdama      Posted: 5/17/2019 4:31:44 PM     Points: 0    
Went fishing on Wednesday and within 30minutes a middle aged woman pulled up on a paddle board to where I was fishing and started verbally attacking me for doing so. She complained about people leaving fishing line behind, and said I was not allowed to fish at big soda lake (which everyone of us is outside of the designated swim/wadding areas per park regulations and a valid license). Not looking for an argument I calmly informed her that people can fish here in designated areas and that all water craft needed to keep a distance of 150 ft from shore fishermen. She proceeded to call me a dumb a** several times and said I didn't know the regulations, she did not have a pfd on board also. After about 15minutes of this I informed her she was committing fishermen harassment because she was physically blocking me from casting or reeling in a line that was already out per co law article 6 title 33 part 6 33-6-115.5. She was also violating #218 of the co boating law to stay 150ft from shore fishermen. As well as no pfd on board the vessel per co boating law #212. I know this is long winded and the population is only increasing here, but I have been fishing there since 2005 with yearly parks passes and valid fishing licenses. The DOW uses part of our lic fees to stock the lake as well (per dept of aquatics and fish explorer info). My 4 yr old son and I clean the shore of several fronts range lakes yearly of line but mostly other trash. Should I call the dow and Lakewood parks dept next time to report her? From my math it would have- been a minimum of a $600 she would incur from her unlawful actions. With the population increasing should we give up our rights and go elsewhere or is it to the point we must stand for our rights and the places we can still fish?

 Reply by: shmiley1      Posted: 5/17/2019 4:56:37 PM     Points: 2661    
Hard to say without hearing both sides. However, if you feel she was out of line it wont hurt to report it to cpw. If she was that worked up, i doubt you are the only person she has contacted.

Most ppl would say just let it go... Im of the other oppinion tho and feel letting it go just justifies the action (or lack there of) to most ppl and makes them more comfortable to do it again.

So many ettiquets on the lakes nowadays were not acceptable back in the day and i feel its only that way because we have allowed it to happen unchecked.
 Reply by: Chdama      Posted: 5/17/2019 5:08:07 PM     Points: 0    
Thank you. Just letting it go at the time seemed to be the best choice. As anglers we seem to just be able to let go and enjoy life more than others at times, must be the tranquility, pursuit, nature, whatever....
 Reply by: Jimmy DFish      Posted: 5/17/2019 6:29:47 PM     Points: 274    
I would definitely report this next time. This attitude is becoming more prevalent in our society. A few years back some fishermen were harassed by some animal rights activist I believe in Florida. The fishermen handled the situation extremely well. Link: [log in for link]

 Reply by: adrenaline_junkie_ff      Posted: 5/17/2019 6:31:02 PM     Points: 8051    
I would also contact Lakewood city parks as they manage the park and lakes. They need to be made aware of potential violators.
 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: 5/17/2019 6:48:01 PM     Points: 63559    
if there's a next time.. make the call.
 Reply by: Pathway      Posted: 5/17/2019 7:43:24 PM     Points: 534    
Just dial 911. lakewood police are on the way.,
 Reply by: Get The Net!      Posted: 5/17/2019 9:20:26 PM     Points: 43    
Was I there with you when you caught this 33 grass carp?
 Reply by: SirGreg88      Posted: 5/17/2019 9:58:27 PM     Points: 74    
So many jokes are flying through my head right now. I CANT SAY THEM!!!
 Reply by: FishSeal      Posted: 5/18/2019 12:01:29 AM     Points: 3035    

From a LEO's perspective, you have excellent information to hand off to the authorities. This is the behavior that needs to be corrected before it becomes worse.
Don't mention the infractions that occurred.
Just write up a report as if it was an accident report. Accident reports include a date, time (check your picture data for the date and time), where you were at, and what happened (basically cut and paste from your original post, minus the infractions).

If you send it via email to the authorities with the picture, it will help them. They can do the leg work and if someone else has called the harassment in, they will have a better idea of the suspect.

 Reply by: Bubba02STi      Posted: 5/18/2019 1:52:23 AM     Points: 515    
FS pretty much nailed it here. Report the incident to both local PD and CPW offices. Hopefully something will be done. We cant let this kind of behavior to continue. Its bad for both hobbies. If we dont do something to protect our rights of the water, the example this woman is setting will become the norm.i know most of us here respect the laws and when it comes to those oops moments were usually fairly acceptable of one another.

Side note
I honestly feel that a lot of these situations could be avoided through education experience and setting an example. Not sayin it would have helped in this situation but offer them to join you. Ask them about their hobby. Explain to them why there is that 150 rule, what our license fees go to. I kayak, paddle board (not often because as soon as I get on the water I want to get a line wet) hike, backpack, mountain bike, ATV/MX, race cars and motorcycles, rc, rocketry, fish. Ive seen and heard it all from both sides through numerous hobbies. My point is, if we all just took a little bit of time to listen to the other side and try gain an understanding, it would make the world a better place for us all.

Here is a happy fish
 Reply by: kicker      Posted: 5/18/2019 6:01:47 AM     Points: 115    
I have phone numbers stored on my phone for local authorities for the lakes I fish. Do it.
Make a call.
Yes report her.
I would have had a hard time with this due to I meet aggression with aggression.
It would have gotten ugly.
Kudos to you.

 Reply by: ScottyK      Posted: 5/18/2019 6:20:39 AM     Points: 154    
This is exactly my issue with safety gear, vest, noise making devices etc...very rude people in general. I have made a similar post about chatfield....people are out on the main lake mixed in with large power boats and no safety measures.....I see that with a lack of common sense on either side an accident is bound to happen...
 Reply by: Eyefishing      Posted: 5/18/2019 7:06:37 AM     Points: 2456    
If you were there and she came in your space and started off like that, I say YES make the call, just my 2 bucks.
 Reply by: motoxxx43      Posted: 5/18/2019 9:18:42 AM     Points: 2629    
This is a real situation for any of us outdoor enthusiasts. We pay they play. Sadly it is only going to get worse with the population influx Colorado has fallen victim to. I almost always fish with my gopro in hopes of recording the big one. It has doubled as an insurance policy that insures my side of the story is undeniably accurate which was the case in March when a fellow boater was antagonizing me in hopes he could escalate a situation from verbal to "lets take this to shore". It was all fun and games until he noticed the camera strapped on my chest as he approached closer to our vessel. Totally changed his actions and I didnt not even get to tell the guy he was being recorded. It is unfortunate things have to be this way but if you are armed with the proper resources and knowledge of the regulations you should be able to enjoy your time outdoors.
 Reply by: malty falcon      Posted: 5/18/2019 6:26:19 PM     Points: 7226    
Nice photo, anyway! Yes, I'd have called it in in a heartbeat. I have very little time to fish, and hate to see any angler getting harassed for doing a lawful activity.

Being calm under these situations is very helpful, sounds like you handled it well.
 Reply by: esoxrocks      Posted: 5/18/2019 7:56:45 PM     Points: 2504    
Same as kicker...I have the phone number of the appropriate law enforcement authority for just about every area I fish stored on my phone and organized under law for quick access.
 Reply by: RogBow      Posted: 5/18/2019 8:14:36 PM     Points: 1871    
 Reply by: MOJO      Posted: 5/19/2019 8:54:55 AM     Points: 450    
Just stay on the higher moral and legal ground and let it go unless it crosses lines. Last time I was harassed like this, I just told the wench that she just can't harass folks, regardless of how big her ass was.
 Reply by: Ryan      Posted: 5/19/2019 9:53:00 AM     Points: 2446    
Not only would I report something like that in the future, you have enough documentation to do it this time.

I would absolutely turn her in. If she did that to you, she will do it to others as well.
 Reply by: snowscum      Posted: 5/19/2019 5:28:31 PM     Points: 92    
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: 5/20/2019 9:02:03 AM     Points: 32074    
Near death experience for sure. Harassed by a girl in a bikini nice enough to sit there Indian styled while harassing you...

I knew fishing was dangerous, but this sure changes things.
 Reply by: FXA0      Posted: 5/20/2019 11:03:55 AM     Points: 168    
^ Some would say it was a fair exchange of goods & services, and call it good. :) Yet, other grown men might want to "meet aggression with aggression" in such situations...
 Reply by: Wacokid57      Posted: 5/20/2019 1:29:11 PM     Points: 11    
It is a sad state of affairs that fishermen need to have the local parks dept or state park where they are fishing, on speed dial. Paddle boarders in particular seem to be guilty of this behavior. Does this happen on the main lake at Bear Creek as well? I would have had a hard time keeping my temper, and i am known as a reasonable guy. There are a lot of people new to our state that have no idea of outdoor rules, laws and etiquette. Good post, Chdama.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: 5/20/2019 2:50:32 PM     Points: 32074    
Life advise... If you find yourself arguing with a woman... You have already lost...

Next time try "you're right honey... would you like a back rub"

 Reply by: masteroftheloch      Posted: 5/20/2019 3:04:52 PM     Points: 164    
Since my first response was removed... 'probably due to total awesomeness'....I would have grabbed her car keys off the front of the board and tossed em in the drink. Then admitted my wrong doing and walked away whistling.
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 5/20/2019 3:27:18 PM     Points: 8963    
I'm going out on a ledge here,but I feel caution in how this is handled is in order. Hitting the "911" is not going to solve this kind of problem.Too many 911's will shed a negative light on fishermen and the easy way out for the folks that run the lake will be to eliminate fishing . . . . .and just like that . . .no more fishing at Soda Lake. Heres an idea.Any park maps available ? A map should show and explain where you can and can't fish.Next time you enter the park get one,keep it handy,I'm pretty bad when it comes to conflict,but age is mellowing me.Hand her a park map/rules and show her she is wrong.
Better yet . . . .ask her to show you where it says you can not fish there.
I'm sure it will also mention PFDs in the park rules.
 Reply by: Fishful Thinker      Posted: 5/20/2019 3:48:56 PM     Points: 11408    
I had a paddle boarder harass us on a guide trip last year...schmuck tried to tell me boating was not legal in "paddler's cove" (actually Satanka Cove at Horsetooth) because the ramp itself was closed. I explained to him the real rules...he still refused to leave us alone. I called the rangers and they promptly arrived and explained why he would be ticketed for harassing anglers if he didn't shut his pie hole.

In my opinion, call the authorities every time...they need to be aware of harassment or it will only get worse. CL
 Reply by: Hawaiian Punch      Posted: 5/20/2019 4:15:01 PM     Points: 8963    
Can you tell us where in the lake you were? A overhead picture would help us understand where you were.
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: 5/20/2019 7:37:40 PM     Points: 32074    
Chad, you forgot the #metoo at the end of your story :)

The male paddle boarders are not quite as enjoyable to deal with as their young, fit, female counterparts.

If you encounter one with a man bun... trim all the way up, outboard pointed towards offender. Add throttle.

Tell officer I just thought he needed to cool off 🤷🏻‍♂️
 Reply by: FISHRANGLER      Posted: 5/22/2019 7:32:57 AM     Points: 1685    
Im the type of person that has to have bond money set aside for idiots. These SUPers suck !
 Reply by: NoNick      Posted: 5/22/2019 11:19:05 AM     Points: 61    
This paddleboard issue is going to reach a head somewhere at sometime. I'm all for people recreating, but the fact is that when someone on a paddleboard rides it right in front of me while I'm fishing, it's the equivalent of throwing rocks right where I'm fishing. Just because throwing rocks into the lake isn't illegal doesn't give you the right to invade my personal space to do it. I'm sick of them too, and I hope CPW comes up with a plan. That's why they get paid the big bucks.
 Reply by: Wilbur Rednbacker      Posted: 5/22/2019 11:30:41 AM     Points: 2079    
I just don't understand why people act this way. She was having fun doing paddle boarding. Live and let live. A Hank Williams Sr. song comes to mind: [log in for link]
 Reply by: NoNick      Posted: 5/22/2019 11:54:17 AM     Points: 61    
If the woman on the paddleboard was minding her own business and having fun, the OP wouldn't have complained about her verbally harassing him when she paddled the thing right up to and into his fishing spot! LOL! Live and let live is great for thee but not when it happens to me, right?
 Reply by: jshanko      Posted: 5/22/2019 3:29:42 PM     Points: 9628    
I wont give up my right to fish legally. Stand your ground and have a ranger or park number on your phone at all times just in case. Keep fishing and have fun with your child.
 Reply by: bhooker      Posted: 5/22/2019 5:41:24 PM     Points: 3    
I agree with reporting her. Send the authorities that pic and get a response right away. Got to nip this in the butt !
 Reply by: proton      Posted: 5/23/2019 7:30:07 AM     Points: 193    
Now that's a good reason to start carrying one of those VERY loud canned fog horns with you.
 Reply by: ditt76      Posted: 5/25/2019 11:13:25 AM     Points: 194    

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