Post By: Chdama Posted: 5/17/2019 4:31:44 PMPoints: 0
Went fishing on Wednesday and within 30minutes a middle aged woman pulled up on a paddle board to where I was fishing and started verbally attacking me for doing so. She complained about people leaving fishing line behind, and said I was not allowed to fish at big soda lake (which everyone of us is outside of the designated swim/wadding areas per park regulations and a valid license). Not looking for an argument I calmly informed her that people can fish here in designated areas and that all water craft needed to keep a distance of 150 ft from shore fishermen. She proceeded to call me a dumb a** several times and said I didn't know the regulations, she did not have a pfd on board also. After about 15minutes of this I informed her she was committing fishermen harassment because she was physically blocking me from casting or reeling in a line that was already out per co law article 6 title 33 part 6 33-6-115.5. She was also violating #218 of the co boating law to stay 150ft from shore fishermen. As well as no pfd on board the vessel per co boating law #212. I know this is long winded and the population is only increasing here, but I have been fishing there since 2005 with yearly parks passes and valid fishing licenses. The DOW uses part of our lic fees to stock the lake as well (per dept of aquatics and fish explorer info). My 4 yr old son and I clean the shore of several fronts range lakes yearly of line but mostly other trash. Should I call the dow and Lakewood parks dept next time to report her? From my math it would have- been a minimum of a $600 she would incur from her unlawful actions. With the population increasing should we give up our rights and go elsewhere or is it to the point we must stand for our rights and the places we can still fish?
Thank you. Just letting it go at the time seemed to be the best choice. As anglers we seem to just be able to let go and enjoy life more than others at times, must be the tranquility, pursuit, nature, whatever....
I would definitely report this next time. This attitude is becoming more prevalent in our society. A few years back some fishermen were harassed by some animal rights activist I believe in Florida. The fishermen handled the situation extremely well. Link: [log in for link]
Reply by: FishSeal Posted: May. 18, 12:01:29 AM Points: 9660
From a LEO's perspective, you have excellent information to hand off to the authorities. This is the behavior that needs to be corrected before it becomes worse. Don't mention the infractions that occurred. Just write up a report as if it was an accident report. Accident reports include a date, time (check your picture data for the date and time), where you were at, and what happened (basically cut and paste from your original post, minus the infractions).
If you send it via email to the authorities with the picture, it will help them. They can do the leg work and if someone else has called the harassment in, they will have a better idea of the suspect.
Reply by: Bubba02STi Posted: May. 18, 1:52:23 AM Points: 497
FS pretty much nailed it here. Report the incident to both local PD and CPW offices. Hopefully something will be done. We can’t let this kind of behavior to continue. It’s bad for both hobbies. If we don’t do something to protect our rights of the water, the example this woman is setting will become the norm.i know most of us here respect the laws and when it comes to those oops moments were usually fairly acceptable of one another.
Side note I honestly feel that a lot of these situations could be avoided through education experience and setting an example. Not sayin it would have helped in this situation but offer them to join you. Ask them about their hobby. Explain to them why there is that 150’ rule, what our license fees go to. I kayak, paddle board (not often because as soon as I get on the water I want to get a line wet) hike, backpack, mountain bike, ATV/MX, race cars and motorcycles, rc, rocketry, fish. I’ve seen and heard it all from both sides through numerous hobbies. My point is, if we all just took a little bit of time to listen to the other side and try gain an understanding, it would make the world a better place for us all.
Reply by: kicker Posted: May. 18, 6:01:47 AM Points: 112
I have phone numbers stored on my phone for local authorities for the lakes I fish. Do it. Make a call. Yes report her. I would have had a hard time with this due to I meet aggression with aggression. It would have gotten ugly. Kudos to you.
Reply by: ScottyK Posted: May. 18, 6:20:39 AM Points: 0
This is exactly my issue with s.u.paddlers...no safety gear, vest, noise making devices etc...very rude people in general. I have made a similar post about chatfield....people are out on the main lake mixed in with large power boats and no safety measures.....I see that with a lack of common sense on either side an accident is bound to happen...
Reply by: motoxxx43 Posted: May. 18, 9:18:42 AM Points: 1868
This is a real situation for any of us outdoor enthusiasts. We pay they play. Sadly it is only going to get worse with the population influx Colorado has fallen victim to. I almost always fish with my gopro in hopes of recording the big one. It has doubled as an insurance policy that insures my side of the story is undeniably accurate which was the case in March when a fellow boater was antagonizing me in hopes he could escalate a situation from verbal to "lets take this to shore". It was all fun and games until he noticed the camera strapped on my chest as he approached closer to our vessel. Totally changed his actions and I didnt not even get to tell the guy he was being recorded. It is unfortunate things have to be this way but if you are armed with the proper resources and knowledge of the regulations you should be able to enjoy your time outdoors.
Reply by: MOJO Posted: May. 19, 8:54:55 AM Points: 272
Just stay on the higher moral and legal ground and let it go unless it crosses lines. Last time I was harassed like this, I just told the wench that she just can't harass folks, regardless of how big her ass was.
It is a sad state of affairs that fishermen need to have the local parks dept or state park where they are fishing, on speed dial. Paddle boarders in particular seem to be guilty of this behavior. Does this happen on the main lake at Bear Creek as well? I would have had a hard time keeping my temper, and i am known as a reasonable guy. There are a lot of people new to our state that have no idea of outdoor rules, laws and etiquette. Good post, Chdama.
Since my first response was removed... 'probably due to total awesomeness'....I would have grabbed her car keys off the front of the board and tossed em in the drink. Then admitted my wrong doing and walked away whistling.
I'm going out on a ledge here,but I feel caution in how this is handled is in order. Hitting the "911" is not going to solve this kind of problem.Too many 911's will shed a negative light on fishermen and the easy way out for the folks that run the lake will be to eliminate fishing . . . . .and just like that . . .no more fishing at Soda Lake. Heres an idea.Any park maps available ? A map should show and explain where you can and can't fish.Next time you enter the park get one,keep it handy,I'm pretty bad when it comes to conflict,but age is mellowing me.Hand her a park map/rules and show her she is wrong. Better yet . . . .ask her to show you where it says you can not fish there. I'm sure it will also mention PFDs in the park rules.
I had a paddle boarder harass us on a guide trip last year...schmuck tried to tell me boating was not legal in "paddler's cove" (actually Satanka Cove at Horsetooth) because the ramp itself was closed. I explained to him the real rules...he still refused to leave us alone. I called the rangers and they promptly arrived and explained why he would be ticketed for harassing anglers if he didn't shut his pie hole.
In my opinion, call the authorities every time...they need to be aware of harassment or it will only get worse. CL
Reply by: NoNick Posted: May. 22, 11:19:05 AM Points: 40
This paddleboard issue is going to reach a head somewhere at sometime. I'm all for people recreating, but the fact is that when someone on a paddleboard rides it right in front of me while I'm fishing, it's the equivalent of throwing rocks right where I'm fishing. Just because throwing rocks into the lake isn't illegal doesn't give you the right to invade my personal space to do it. I'm sick of them too, and I hope CPW comes up with a plan. That's why they get paid the big bucks.
Reply by: NoNick Posted: May. 22, 11:54:17 AM Points: 40
If the woman on the paddleboard was minding her own business and having fun, the OP wouldn't have complained about her verbally harassing him when she paddled the thing right up to and into his fishing spot! LOL! Live and let live is great for thee but not when it happens to me, right?