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River: Arkansas River Below Pueblo Reservoir

Fly fishing/ spin fishing tomorrow

Post By: xavierk31      Posted: 1/30/2019 2:06:01 PM     Points: 1281    
Headed down to Pueblo tomorrow morning. Thisíll be my real first opportunity to fly fish, ever. All Iím hoping for is A fish. Iíve got my small midges and worms ready! Hopefully thereíll be pictures to follow. Either from fly or spin fishing. Lol
 Reply by: brookieflyfisher      Posted: 1/30/2019 5:26:07 PM     Points: 6133    
Speaking from experience: If you really want to learn fly-fishing, leave the spin gear at home.

Fly fishing is frustrating. If you bring the spin gear you will inevitably use it and cheat yourself out of the necessary difficulties that come with learning to fly fish. It takes a while to get used to casting, let alone reading the water, selecting the right fly, moving into the proper wading position to make the best presentation, presenting the fly properly, detecting a bite, hooking the fish, and finally playing the fish and releasing it unharmed.

So yeah. Challenge yourself and only bring the fly rod. You'll hate it but it's the only way! Good luck!
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 1/30/2019 6:12:30 PM     Points: 37746    
^^^I totally agree, unless you want to deadstick some bait nearby. If Im focussing on the flyrod thats pretty much the gear for that trip.
 Reply by: brookieflyfisher      Posted: 1/30/2019 6:24:13 PM     Points: 6133    
^Yep! Still, I would argue don't even deadstick bait. That keeps you tied to one location. Successful fly fishing requires a lot of walking!
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 1/30/2019 6:31:47 PM     Points: 37746    
Agree totally on a river. If you are fishing a 3 acre pond though...
 Reply by: skiman      Posted: 1/30/2019 6:44:33 PM     Points: 2332    
Donít let the ďexpertsĒ put a snag in your experience. The weather should be good, and the fishing good as well, catching being the variable.
The fly fishing will come in time if you stick with the basics and take things one cast at a time. If you feel comfortable bringing your spinning gear, by all means do so. Just enjoy the day!
 Reply by: JIGORNAUT      Posted: 1/30/2019 6:52:22 PM     Points: 324    
Maybe youíll catch some fish on your very first outing, like I did, I was fortunate to have a seasoned fly fisherman point me in the right direction, in the way of tutulige, of course I watched a lot of videos and took a class to show me the fundamentals, and practiced casting in the park, but the technique I used was the one Pat Dorsey used in his video on nymph fishing, pretty simple way of fly fishing, I believe I have caught at least one fish with that technique, on just about every outing, and didnít walk much further than my truck to the river, that being said, donít be discouraged if the opposite happens to you, Iíve been out fishing plenty with but the enjoyment of the outing as my reward. By the way I brought my spin gear and caught fish with that also, have fun, and Iíd tell you good luck, but I donít believe in it.
 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: 1/31/2019 7:48:25 AM     Points: 58270    
Ark below the Dam - fly and lure only.. no bait dunking allowed. Also agree with BFF, leave the spin gear at home if you really want to immerse yourself into fly fishing. When I want to try new lures, I will ONLY take new lures with me on an outing. Otherwise it's too easy to fall back with what I know and am confortable with,

Good luck
 Reply by: skiman      Posted: 1/31/2019 8:59:07 AM     Points: 2332    
AWB makes some valid points. If you want to do the whippy-stick thing, maybe you should ditch the spinning gear, and concentrate on the fly rod. You can start out with the basics and work you way up to a more sophisticated outfit if you find you like it. Biggest thing is to not get discouraged. Is takes time to become proficient no matter how you fish. Let me know how you did.
 Reply by: troutfinder      Posted: 1/31/2019 9:14:42 AM     Points: 579    
I wish you great luck, but please don't let the ark river in winter be your guide to whether you will have success at fly fishing. there could not be a more difficult time to catch trout on a fly than january. it's a nice open river that does allow you a chance to practice your casting and drifts and I know many guys swear by that river, but it will the death of me and I catch hundreds and hundreds of trout on a fly everywhere else during a year. but, the opportunities are limited now for sure.
my recommendation to any new fly fisher is to hit the smaller creeks when the conditions get good...they have small trout but plenty of them and they are NOT as picky as tailwater, winter trout..not even close. depending on weather, mid-april thru late may, before run-off starts, can be great fishing on the mountain streams with simple attractor dry flies or dry-dropper. if you're close enough, you only have to go to boulder creek or clear creek outside of golden to cast over tons of small trout. the small streams are also great because you do not have to make 40 foot casts or long, drag-free drifts. you can punch a 10 foot cast into pocket water and get slammed from an aggressive trout. the action will make up for the smaller size! good luck
 Reply by: Anteroman      Posted: 1/31/2019 10:42:32 AM     Points: 5208    
My $.02,
Take your light spin tackle, use 1# 4# braid or 2# 6# braid, tie on a Vibrax minnow in brown trout color and you WILL bend the rod. I almost exclusively fish the rivers of Colorado with this set-up unless there's a dry fly hatch going on, I fish to make the rod bend.

 Reply by: xavierk31      Posted: 1/31/2019 9:27:09 PM     Points: 1281    
Long story short, I wasnít able to go out today. Iíll jerp you guys posted the next time Iím able to go out. Thanks for the tips guys. Iíve never tried fly fishing, just moved out here a year and change ago from South Dakota and Iím really enjoying the trout fishing so far. Really wanting it get into fly fishing tho.
 Reply by: xavierk31      Posted: 1/31/2019 9:27:26 PM     Points: 1281    
*keep you guys posted
 Reply by: LarsCS      Posted: 2/12/2019 10:26:32 PM     Points: 15    
anglerwannabe: "Ark below the Dam - fly and lure only.. no bait dunking allowed."

Have the rules changed? I thought that using bait was allowed from the dam to the Valco bridge.
 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: 2/13/2019 10:24:52 AM     Points: 58270    
Hi Lars - I always come in from the Nature Center and there are very large signs stating flies and lures only from beyond that point. From there, there is a trail that literally pretty much you can walk all the way to the dam and since I didn't see anything to the contrary, my impression is that's all fly and lure. I've never seen anyone use bait in that stretch either. Even so, it is possible that my interpretation is incorrect, so I recommend you contact the rangers at Pueblo if you're wanting to use bait there, just to be safe.
 Reply by: LarsCS      Posted: 2/13/2019 10:29:43 PM     Points: 15    
I looked at the regulations.

From dam to Valco bridge standard rules so you can use bait for several miles along the river.

From the Valco bridge, downstream to Pueblo Blvd (except at the Pueblo Nature Center as posted): 1. Artificial flies and lures only. 2. Trout 16 inches or longer must be returned to the water immediately.

I use my own flies with Tenkara gear unless it is on the ice. Just did not want wrong information to spread around.

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