Reply by: fishgutz Posted: 10/8/2018 8:46:24 AM Points: 131
THANK YOU!!!!! ive also experianced this while fishing Barker and its frustrating. Ive saw a few kyackers as well as fly fisherman wading near the inlet. I did speak up to a couple guys but they just blew me off and said to mind my own buisness
Reply by: brookieflyfisher Posted: 10/8/2018 9:11:03 AM Points: 6121
I agree that rules are rules and people should follow them while they are in place. Breaking the rules to get an unfair advantage over law-abiding citizens is pretty scummy.
That said, the whole "no water contact" thing is pretty unique to Colorado and it's pretty stupid. It doesn't do anything to protect the water resource for later consumption and I don't see a compelling liability argument either, especially if you're already allowing other forms of public access (or compelled to allow, considering Barker, Gross, and others are technically public property).
Reply by: skiman Posted: 10/8/2018 10:57:14 AM Points: 2033
Brookie, ďNo water contactĒ rules are NOT stupid, and are in place for a number of reasons, the least of which is a liability issue. Sometimes we forget some waters are public water supplies, managed but not owned by the state. That being said, if rules are implemented for a particular body of water, I would much rather follow them than run the risk of closure to my recreational opportunities. I donít always agree with or like restrictions, but Iím aware of the fact I donít always know the reasons behind them. MYO
I have told people who were starting to wade of these rules and they thanked me! Some people actually have manners...
As far as the kokes go...fishing was best for them weeks ago IMO. I went last Wednesday I think it was, and only had follows (I limited a few weeks ago). Also tons of people were showing up even on a Wednesday! People started turning around because there just wasnt room...
Also..does anyone have any idea as to why the kokes have been shrinking? This may be a topic for another thread, but over the past 3 years or so Ive gone from catching 15in silvers in june to barely being able to catch a 12iner during spawn.
3way- Kokanee size has a lot to do with the amount of food available. Too many fish stocked + too many successfully reproducing could many too many mouths to feed. Reservoir water level can also influence kokanee size by either controlling the total amount of food available or by reducing physical habitat availability. Either of those could be at play at Barker.
TO BE CLEAR I'm not telling anyone to break the rules, just discussing why I think the rules are stupid. You and ShuMugen are right, follow the rules even if they seem dumb.
Some rules are needed for sure but government trying to save us from us or blanket punishment I oppose. I was once told that I can't have a waterskeeter boat at Adams County FG.... Because I could fall in and drown.... I'm not making this up!
Reply by: ShuMugen Posted: 10/11/2018 8:21:55 AM Points: 853
Yes. According to city of Nederland you can have body contact with the rivers but it must be one mile way from the inlet spillage(upstream) and two miles from the outlet dam, but just a warning, some area are private downstream.
Reply by: gsn1574 Posted: 10/14/2018 6:06:49 AM Points: 733
I grew up just outside Nederland. This has always been the rule except the trial period they did allow boats for a few weeks about 20 years ago. Silly rules. I was at Standly lake 20 years ago standing ankle deep in the water 20 years from the boat area where 5 or 10 people from boats were waiding and swimming. The ranger comes up and tells me to get out of the water...I point to the boaters and he said, they have boats. Canít aregue with government logic.