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Lake: Loch Lomond Lake

fire ban

Post By: lil hooker      Posted: 7/8/2018 10:56:22 PM     Points: 719    
Hi all.. the wifey and I are planning and overnight camping trip to the loch. she says the entire state is enforcing a fire ban..any truth to this.. whats camping without a fire .. LEWDOGG says hi to everyone by the way!!
 Reply by: Bubba02STi      Posted: 7/9/2018 12:13:38 AM     Points: 515
Camping without a fire isn’t all that bad. We just did over the weekend. It looks like clear creek county is on a stage 2 fire ban. Which means you can still use propane. [log in for link]

Just call the rangers office and get clarification first as some counties may have special restrictions.

And yes, most of the state is on some sort of fire ban or another. You can check all counties here. [log in for link]

You can always put a lantern in the fire pit to give the illusion of a campfire. It works surprising well actually.
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/9/2018 5:58:24 AM     Points: 48834
We were at Fall River on Friday and there are signs all over warning of this. We actually passed a sheriff coming down from there--so they are patrolling the area, even the 4WD trails.
 Reply by: lil hooker      Posted: 7/9/2018 6:09:01 AM     Points: 719
awesome guys thank you so much for the info. Rules are rules and we definitely don't want to break them. We will figure something out
 Reply by: skiman      Posted: 7/9/2018 6:09:58 AM     Points: 2825
With all due respect, as tinder dry as it is all over the state, why would one even THINK about having a campfire?
Camp in a “cold camp” least until we get some decent moisture. MYO
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/9/2018 6:19:07 AM     Points: 48834
It was bone dry up at Fall River...expect Loch Lomond to be the same way. Good luck fishing there, look forward to that lake report!
 Reply by: riper69      Posted: 7/9/2018 7:17:22 AM     Points: 2150
No fires
We advanced into a stage 2 fire ban july 3rd.
The whole state is in a fire ban
Were have you been
 Reply by: adrenaline_junkie_ff      Posted: 7/9/2018 7:30:20 AM     Points: 10072
Included with the fire ban, Clear Creek County has also put a ban on discharge of firearms. Just be fireware. A buddy of mine lives in Alice and it was a nice comfortable 70F at his place yesterday. Got back to Golden and it was 90F. Should have stayed in the mountains. Lol
 Reply by: SGM      Posted: 7/9/2018 8:09:43 AM     Points: 23614
Yes very dry, better safe than sorry in this situation.

What are STAGE 2 Fire Restrictions?

STAGE 2 Fire Restrictions help land management
agencies reduce fire risk and prevent wildfires during periods
of high to extreme fire danger.

1. Building, maintaining, attending or using a fire,
campfire, or stove fire 36 CFR 261.52(a). This
includes charcoal grills and barbecues, coal and wood
burning stoves and sheepherder’s stoves and includes
use in developed camping and picnic grounds.
EXCEPT: Devices using pressurized liquid or gas
(stoves, grills or lanterns) that include shut-off valves
are permitted when used in an area at least three feet
or more from flammable material such as grasses or
pine needles.

2. Smoking. 36 CFR 261.52(c)
EXCEPT: Within enclosed vehicle, trailer or building.

3. Welding or operating acetylene or other torch with
open flame. 36 CFR 261.52(i).

4. Operating or using any internal combustion engine
(e.g. chainsaw, generator, ATV) without a spark
arresting device properly installed, maintained and in
effective working order meeting either:
(a) Department of Agriculture, Forest Service
Standard 5100-1a or
(b) Appropriate Society of automotive Engineers
(SAE) recommended practice J335(b) and
J350(a). 36 CFR 261.52(j)

5. Operating a chainsaw without an approved spark
arresting device as described in Prohibition #4, a
chemical pressurized fire extinguisher (8 oz. capacity
by weight or larger and kept with the operator) and a
round point shovel with an overall length of at least
35 inches readily available for use. 36 CFR 261.52(h).

6. Using an explosive. 36 CFR 261.52(b). This includes
but is not limited to fuses or blasting caps, fireworks,
rockets, exploding targets, and tracers or incendiary.
 Reply by: wildtrouter      Posted: 7/9/2018 1:20:53 PM     Points: 150
Yes most of the state is in a fire ban of some sort. Some places are stage 1 some at stage two.......some parts of CO, I'm looking at you north east, don't appear to be in as much danger as the remainder of the state.

So I wouldn't say the entire state is locked down, and not all of the state is at stage 2.....but I'm not saying it's bonfire time or a time to take it lightly.

Best part of a no campfire camp trip?? Many think you're not camping without the fire.....I don't ever mind those folks staying home.

 Reply by: jman      Posted: 7/9/2018 4:59:58 PM     Points: 2248
The upper gate is still locked up to the lake. Just a heads up.
 Reply by: lil hooker      Posted: 7/9/2018 5:58:29 PM     Points: 719
jman.. yup. opens the 15th about 10 vehicles turned around with us. road is beat up good. went over to fall river instead..
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/9/2018 6:14:14 PM     Points: 48834
How did you do there?
 Reply by: adrenaline_junkie_ff      Posted: 7/9/2018 7:26:26 PM     Points: 10072
That road is always a $hi+ show. Can't believe some of the cars and small SUVs that make it up there without ripping out oil pans. Now that I have my fuel filter and lift pump installed under the truck, it's going to be slow going.
 Reply by: lil hooker      Posted: 7/10/2018 6:29:19 AM     Points: 719
We got up there about 11 am and only 1 other truck was there. we didn't really fish a lot just hiked around with the dogs. There were tons of fish slurping flies by the inlet left of the dam. (of course i forgot my flies and bubble) Water was super clear and just enough wind to keep the bugs away from us. We had lunch in the tepee and left about 4pm. overall a great outing for us. We beat the heat but not the sunburn. LOL
 Reply by: Airreed      Posted: 7/12/2018 4:33:51 PM     Points: 590
How far is the hike from the second gate to Loch Lomond? I want to bring my float tube out, but don't want to hump it too far.
 Reply by: esoxrocks      Posted: 7/12/2018 7:23:40 PM     Points: 2522
Last time I was up there I passed a Subaru Outback with street tires coming down while I was going up. He said he had no problems. I didn’t think the road was bad at all (maybe a couple steep/rutted spots) but that was a few years ago.That said, I was disappointed at all the garbage and totally trashed camping areas however, especially given the beautiful setting. Maybe things have imporoved since then...
 Reply by: wildtrouter      Posted: 7/13/2018 9:52:34 AM     Points: 150
Airreed-It's a decent hike with a tube fo' sho'. I'd personally hold off until the gate is open. But I have a bad back....
 Reply by: adrenaline_junkie_ff      Posted: 7/13/2018 10:29:23 AM     Points: 10072
Esox, I've gotten up in a Baja and my silverado. In some aspects, it's easier in a car because of the short amd narrow wheelbase but the lack of horsepower does make you get creative on the line you pick. The Silverado, because of it's heavy suspension, is a lot more bouncy but the torque of the diesel is nice to have. The road has definitely gotten beat up the last few years but it helps keep some of the riff raff out. I definitely suggest making sure your spare is in good condition or go with 10 ply tires.
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/13/2018 9:50:17 PM     Points: 48834
Email me on my skipper link Esox, we would take you up.
 Reply by: esoxrocks      Posted: 7/14/2018 3:00:31 PM     Points: 2522
Thanks Bron, I’d like to fish with you guys sometime. I have never had a problem with that road (own a Jeep GC 5.7) but was commenting that I didn’t think the road was very bad last time I went up. But that was a few years ago now. Seems l remember one steep rutted section (maybe two) near the top that could give a lower clearance vehicle some trouble. I do know how quickly road/trail conditions can change however. Has the condition of the camping areas nearer the lake improved at all?
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/14/2018 6:22:21 PM     Points: 48834
If anything things are getting worse as far as trash. We always haul out a load of trash and shell casings. Bunch of busted up clay pigeons up there now. We will prolly do one more trip up in the fall. I liked seeing sherriffs up there last trip enforcing the fire ban.
 Reply by: riper69      Posted: 7/14/2018 10:26:45 PM     Points: 2150
The trash is horrible any were around public clear creek. Its sad cause its mostly recycle. Its free at our local transfer station. Its always blowen my mind that people can take something into a pristean environment and leave it for the people who care about the places we get to go and enjoy. If you ask alot of tbe locals they will say shut the roads down and hike.
Always pack in light come out heavy
Specially during september
Tight lines and Travel light.

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