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Possible Reg changes for Pueblo Reservoir

Post By: dizzel      Posted: 6/6/2018 11:50:48 PM     Points: 21837    
Now I normally try and stay away from the "politics' when it comes to fishing, but I this is one that I think I will be involved in.

The CPW are considering some changes at Pueblo Reservoir, the first is allowing less access at the dam rip rap during the Walleye spawn, currently you can fish the rip rap during daylight hours from 9:01am to 3:59pm from 3/15 to 4/15 the change is to "close" that whole area to "all" fishing from 3/1 to 4/15 or whenever the egg collection is finished.

#2 Regulation Change: Wiper possession currently is 20 fish per day, the "new" regulation would reduce the possession to 10 per day...

This is the one I would like to see a tighter Reg on at Pueblo (Walleye guys are going to beat me up) the Wiper/Hybrid Palmetto is a delicate and expensive species to stock, however it is a very fast growing fish and does very well in Pueblo Reservoir , within the first two years the Wiper can exceed 20+ inches and weigh in at 4+ Lbs, but has a short life span with expectancy around 7-8 years. I have seen groups of 10+ adults with 10+ kids keeping coolers with 100's of Wiper's taken night after night when the bite is on and within ones rights but, this kills the "limited" fingerlings CO buys from Kansas/Nebraska/Texas, now im all for "Harvest" but this is overkill. Introduce Slot limits for the Wipers and the lake could be a "trophy" Wiper destination for people who want to target Trophy Walleye or Wiper...

The #3 change is Crappie must be at least 10 inches to keep. (currently no min size and 20 per day)

What are you thoughts if you frequent Pueblo waters?

 Reply by: Killerfihser      Posted: 6/7/2018 6:48:17 AM     Points: 898    
Lake Mcconaughy has some good regulations to keep their walleyes and wiper fishery sustain for trophy hunters, same regulations should applied here in CO. The 10" limit for crappies should be state wide and drop the bag limit to 10.

 Reply by: bratfish      Posted: 6/7/2018 7:49:09 AM     Points: 1093    
i lived ON the lake for YEARS. if they can't take care of drunks they can't manage this either. now something that requires sitting in a car or truck. they can do.
 Reply by: Trotline      Posted: 6/7/2018 8:05:19 AM     Points: 851    
I do not have a problem with closing the spawn area. It is done at other lakes. I can support a smaller limit on both wiper and crappie. A 10 inch size on crappie is no problem and that size limit is used all over the southern states.
 Reply by: Coyute      Posted: 6/7/2018 9:25:59 AM     Points: 106    
I like them all.
 Reply by: Smelly      Posted: 6/7/2018 1:55:06 PM     Points: 20703    
Kind of an odd place for me to be in. I agree with both Coyute and Bratfish ! Even though statistics may show otherwise. It seems like there are more people fishing out here. I know they cut the bag limit on trout . But with trout it's more of a bigger "up front "cost" raising Catchables vs buying /stocking Fingerlings.Can't see how a size limit and some trimming of the bag limit should get anybody fired up ( but there will always be that one preson! ). Sound like a good way to improve the qualiy of the fishing some. Without spending any money.

Now to bratfish's point ( Yes ! For once we are in agreement ! Hope you were sitting down for that ! ) Thougher rules without some ..REAL.. enforcement . It "s like a big dog with no teeth ! With the fisherman these days, rules are more like suggestions.( pointed out to a guy at St Vrain. That the sign he was fishing almost BEHIND at Bald Eagle states Flies and Lures only !) Growling doesn't cut it no more. CPW has to "reinstall " the chomppers, and exercise them some more !
 Reply by: SGM      Posted: 6/7/2018 6:07:52 PM     Points: 6724    
I could live with those changes without any issues. Was at Pueblo last 2 days. Saw 2 CPW officers at the ramp today. Did not see them ask one person for a license or check any livewells. Possible they did but none I saw and we where not checked. In fact I have never been checked at Pueblo in 30 plus years of fishing the lake. Would be nice to see more enforecement.
 Reply by: Luke the Dog      Posted: 6/7/2018 10:20:56 PM     Points: 34    
I'm for all of those, all good ideas...
 Reply by: Whiskerhunter      Posted: 6/7/2018 10:53:13 PM     Points: 1030    
Love it!! Way too many people taking home wipers for sure. Wouldn't mind seeing that number reduced a little further or something similar to the walleye slot limits would work too.

10" Crappie is a must. With the fluctuations in lake levels we don't always have a good spawn.

Maybe there is hope for this state's fish management afterall....
 Reply by: Freestone303      Posted: 6/8/2018 12:57:20 PM     Points: 442    
I like it.
 Reply by: death__from__below      Posted: 6/9/2018 4:41:30 PM     Points: 128    
Should cut wiper limit to 1/4 instead of 1/2. 5 fish and put a minimum length on them.
 Reply by: 7609      Posted: 7/17/2018 1:31:52 PM     Points: 0    
We should put size limits on wipers, and only five a day. I remember 30 years ago it was a great fishery for wiper, now you can barely catch one.
 Reply by: bron      Posted: 7/17/2018 6:13:51 PM     Points: 25731    
Only retired army guys with dogs can use the boat ramp on weekdays.
 Reply by: Walleye145      Posted: 7/18/2018 10:33:40 PM     Points: 45    
I am all for the crappie reg proposal, but disagree strongly with the other 2 proposals. Limiting further access to the dam is an unnecessary regulation that will do nothing to help protect spawning walleyes. They have put nets out early the last 2 years with total disregard for their own rules. They didn't even give fisherman any prior notice before doing this. They already have the dam closed when all the big females move up to spawn any way. I have never caught any big females off the dam during the month prior to or after the closure. But I have have seen plenty of fish between 10-16 lbs. in the nets during the spawn operation. During the years following the attacks of 9-11 when the dam was closed to all access, the number of eggs collected didn't magically go up by quantum ratios. The best thing that could be done is to enforce the size limit,and ticket all the people I have to educate every summer with undersized fish on their stringers.
Leave the wiper limits alone. If the wiper population explodes again like it did in the 80's and 90's, the forage base will crash again and the fish growth will be stunted. The fishery at Pueblo is in the best shape I have seen in my lifetime, so leave it be. Just enforce the rules you already have in place!!!!!
Just my honest and passionate opinion.

 Reply by: Walleye145      Posted: 7/18/2018 10:39:35 PM     Points: 45    
I meant to ad that putting the nets out early the last 2 years did nothing to help with egg collection. The water was still to cold and the walleyes were not there in any numbers yet.
 Reply by: dizzel      Posted: 7/18/2018 10:50:46 PM     Points: 21837    
In my opinion that's when this place fished the best, however that's a biased notion, and exactly why I started this post! I favor the Wiper population as a fun, thrill of the catch then release species! The walleye are more of a put and take/sell species (DOW) wise, sure ill keep a legal walleye for some table fare but would rather catch 10 lb plus Wiper's any day of the week put it back and shove a fish-o-filet from Mc'D's down while changing lures to get my fish eats.

I have a "buddy" who get's mad at me when I release any Wiper, he tells me ..." I would throw it on the shore and watch it die" ... and he hosts Walleye seminars lol....

So if that's the "mentality" of some folks then why spend the money on this species every few years with virtually no regs just to "watch it die on the shore"....

Stunted growth huh.... how about 15-18 inch walleye are targeted table fare while anything over 18" must be returned to the water immediately!

Wiper... Catch and release only, they only live for about 5-8 years and most of their growth is within the first 3 years.... and they DONT reproduce!!!

That would be a "put and take" while establishing a trophy Wiper and Walleye fishery....
 Reply by: SGM      Posted: 7/19/2018 7:33:11 AM     Points: 6724    
Bron, I would love that law to be passed, so would Liberty!

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