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Post By: glennard      Posted: 12/6/2017 3:05:18 PM     Points: 10    
I have to ask every ones opinion. Our HOA says no to catch and release for our lakes. Can some one explain the down side?
 Reply by: FishSeal      Posted: 12/6/2017 3:14:52 PM     Points: 8930    

This is probably a management decision. Here are several reasons why.
1) too many fish in the body of water, causing stunting.
2) not enough forage, so take the large predators (will appear skinny)
3) need to make room for new fish, take old fish before they die
4) plan on draining the body of water, allows fish to be taken before dying

Hope that helps with some ideas, but you'd get a better answer if you asked your HOA.

 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: 12/6/2017 3:20:55 PM     Points: 39367    
FS - good to see ya post
 Reply by: glennard      Posted: 12/6/2017 4:00:51 PM     Points: 10    
Thanks Fish Seal. We have 1 guy that keeps 450 trout a year. So to many fish is out. I forgot to add I was trying to do catch and release for ice fishing and lower the limits to 2 fish My response was that most people can't handle C and R and the fish would die. There is plenty of minnows and shrimp in the lake and the Hatchery's fish are getting smaller and smaller.Thanks for the response though
 Reply by: shiverfix      Posted: 12/6/2017 4:25:07 PM     Points: 3398    
My first thought, and I think confirmed by your last post, is that people are gut hooking trout and if they release the fish, they are dying, which could cause problems with smell and attracting scavengers.
 Reply by: richw88      Posted: 12/6/2017 5:10:41 PM     Points: 12    
Ran into that on a private lake on a trip to CA years ago. Their rationale was that almost all released fish died (maybe they did - weak stock, poor handling, gut hooking, who knows?) and to allow C&R was to allow anglers to kill far more than their limits. With C&R they were guaranteeing that the stocked trout weren't being wasted or depleted unnecessarily.

Sounds like you've got a guy who already takes care of that single-handedly. No one needs 450 trout a year. Bet most of them are given away and/or go to waste.
 Reply by: glennard      Posted: 12/6/2017 5:30:12 PM     Points: 10    
IMO most ice fisherman no how to release a trout and if you keep it, it is 100% dead. If you let it go it at least has a chance for survival. I am so for C and R
 Reply by: GoNe_FiShIn_11      Posted: 12/6/2017 6:24:02 PM     Points: 489    
I c and r so I don't have to clean them when I get home. Lol
 Reply by: Abel1      Posted: 12/6/2017 9:22:03 PM     Points: 182    
The one I fish is catch and release but its pretty small. Cool thing is some people get the enjoyment out of feeding them pellets so they grow big but can be easy to catch. There is a great lesson to be learned though. My nieces and nephews 4 to 7 love to fish it and yes you could break the rules and sneak a few but then you ruin it for them the next time. We've been catching the same fish for 3 years now and it makes for a great time.
 Reply by: richw88      Posted: 12/7/2017 10:42:34 AM     Points: 12    
Reply by: glennard
IMO most ice fisherman no how to release a trout and if you keep it, it is 100% dead. If you let it go it at least has a chance for survival. I am so for C and R

I'm 100% C&R myself. But the point is, your accidental mortality rate doing C&R is 5-10% (that's the generally quoted number for barbless FFing ice/bait fishing has to be much higher). So say a guy deep-hooking fish with bait is killing half of everything he lands. If he's forced to keep them, he only kills 4 fish that day.
I'm sure (and embarrassed to admit) that on a good day in summer I may release 40-50 fish and probably 2-5 will die from injury or lactic acid build-up. Lakes like Antero, where the water warms a lot in July/Aug, are a lot worse. Released fish swim away fine, but die hours or days later. On ice, you're taking a fish out of 30 degree water and laying him on minus15 degree ice. Can't be beneficial.
 Reply by: riper69      Posted: 12/7/2017 12:51:06 PM     Points: 4335    
I grew up on a private pond and the owner was the only one who could keep fish. Never had dead fish summer winter fall or spring.
If you know how to handle fish they have a great chance of surviving.

If the fish die why do we release all the big Lakers we catch
Outlaw power bait
 Reply by: cookster      Posted: 12/7/2017 3:17:26 PM     Points: 59358    
LOL, if you C&R guys are killing that many fish you should stop fishing. Your taking food out of my / kids mouth. 😎
 Reply by: jlimke      Posted: 12/8/2017 7:44:53 AM     Points: 415    
A common mistake for shore fishermen is to release the fish in shallow water so as not to get your toes wet. I have come up with a method to release the fish in deep water by punting it like a football. Fish have soft bodies and are impervious to trauma from a full contact punt. Careful not to use your toe, but the instep of your boot. The benefits of this method are many but I will highlight a few:

1. keeps fish from scratching its belly on the dirt
2. Birds think fish is a fellow bird and do not attack, once in the water, the fish can dive from birds

 Reply by: yard dogs      Posted: 12/8/2017 8:28:15 AM     Points: 650    
^^^ Ah.. the ol' CPR - Catch, Punt , and Release
 Reply by: oldguy      Posted: 12/8/2017 8:29:00 AM     Points: 245    
LOL Jimke, What if you shank your punt, and what if the fish doesn't land head first in the water? That might give the birds a few seconds to grab the fish. When I release fish, I always grip it tight like a football, take a few running steps and fling it as far as I can. That way the fish has a perfect spiral and always landed head first in the water. Birds never have a chance.
 Reply by: Abel1      Posted: 12/8/2017 9:25:15 AM     Points: 182    
Of course there are those who seem to fumble with the fish at the "SHORE LINE"

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