Post By: droolr Posted: 11/11/2017 1:41:33 PMPoints: 687
i hear people are over limiting at antero . where is law enforcement ? if you see fish or wild life violations make the phone call and report it . heavy fines is the only way to stop dirt bags and their friends from do it again . i dont bother talking to people doing it because getting beaten,stabbed or shot is not my idea of a good time . let them talk to the DOW .
With the hunting seasons in full swing, and other issues like budget cuts etc., Iím fairly sure the rangers arenít ďall overĒ Antero! I think itís still up to responsible fishermen/women to continue to monitor and report illegal activity. You donít have to get in someoneís face, but vehicle descriptions, license plate numbers, and physical descriptions of the offenders go along way to shut this kind of activity down.
I really tried hard to NOT comment on such a silly, troll-worthy post.
But some of these comments sound like people who went to the lake ONE TIME, on the 4th of July! I've been there many many times, and I've never seen the behavior that drooly talks about. Maybe if all the people who are complaining about the bad behavior at Antero could do something positive, or just stop going there. If I find a fishing hole doesn't excite me spiritually, I don't go back. No reason for me to whine like a little girl, I just stop going there. What's the point? Don't like whores on the shores? Don't go back!!
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If I drive all the way to Antero for a day of rest , relaxation and fishing, the last thing im going to do is call someone to complain they kept a few extra fish. Not worth the stress of it all. If you really want to stop people from taking home more fish than the law allows, throw your phone in the lake and stop posting anything on this site. This site attracts more people to the fish than I have seen. DOW has much more financially beneficial things to do than count fish. Some people need to take whatever they can catch and use the fish as a means to create happiness and self worth.
Positive,m So you think itís OK to break the law and justify or minimize it? As a member of this site for some time now, I can guarantee most folks here really care about preserving the resources. If you donít want to get involved itís fine with me. Just donít down play the issue by minimizing the effect thatover harvesting has on the fish population. Contrary to your ďbeliefsĒ, rules, regulations, and laws are in place for a reason. The very least you can do is respect them.
First of all. You probably break a law everyday. Knowingly and unknowingly. I been on this site for about 10 years now! I have seen first hand how posting on this site kills more fish than taking a few extra fish. I personally follow the rules and regulations because I enjoy the sport of it. I also dont like it when people take more than the limit allows. These ways that I fish doesnt mean that everybody should also follow these guidelines. People are going to do what they want to do, whether others agree or not, including laws. There is just to many more important things to patrol rather than tracking down people who take more than the law allows.
The reason the law is in affect is because of money. It all boils down to money. Not whats fair or right. How many times have you called to report someone for over harvesting? What happened? How did that day end for you? The law breaker? The officer?
All I can say is wow to some of the comments. Iíve been on on this site for a very long time. I joined this site for info, fishing reports and such. If you see illegal activity then do something about it. Otherwise letís enjoy our outing and be happy. Does it bother me to see people killl more than they should. Yes. It bothers me to see a legally caught fish wasted too.
I have a problem with blanket statements and no back up. Prostitution, Mob... really! Come on man.....
Reply by: skiman Posted: 11/13/2017 5:23:25 AM Points: 1301
Positive, I was taught to always do the best you can. Your responsibility is to report the infraction, not stress out over what the final outcome is. You initially posted that your enjoyment of the sport is more important than someone taking more than their limit of fish...I disagree. Yes, there is "hot-spotting" on this site, but mostly by the trolls and wannabes. Those of us that have been here for awhile are FX members, and just give general fishing information on the free side. It's commendable you are a responsible sportsman, but don't post advocating breaking the rules and not expect some flack over it. It's more than just about $$$. The management of our resources is up to every one of us. I sincerely hope you can understand my position on this. Ski
Reply by: Anteroman Posted: 11/13/2017 8:10:06 AM Points: 2630
My $.02, Specifically for "Positive", if you think disregarding the law and killing more fish than the law allows or littering or not following the laws as written then your taking your chances. I live in the South Park area fish the South Park Lakes more than 100 trips each year and if I see you disobey the law, I will talk with you about it, and if I see you are in violation, I will report you to the people responsible for enforcement. Your opinion BTW is not one shared by any other fishing person I know either on this site or my many friends I share the waters of Colorado with. Bill
Also, for those of you who don't have it on your speed dial,
COLORADO Game thief Hotline 877-265-6648 if you see a violation write it down, if possible a description of the person(s) the boat registration if available, an auto license tag, pass the information on to the enforcement officer.
Reply by: Luke the Dog Posted: 11/13/2017 11:06:44 AM Points: 34
"I drive all the way to Antero for a day of rest , relaxation and fishing"
Antero, the first place that comes to mind when I hear the word "relaxing"...and now also the first place that comes to mind when I hear the word "prostitution"...it's getting pretty bad out there, rumor has it SWAT was out there last week too!
Do not forget the Russians were involved somehow with mind control. In addition its all President Trumps fault because I saw on the News that he has signed an executive order giving away western states water to drought stricken states.
Able 1. I'm not speaking for ski but do agree about putting info on the free side. Not because members on the free side don't contribute but the free side can be seen by anyone weather they contribute or not. There are a lot of people who come for the free info and don't contribute anything. Why share info with them? I see the fxr+ side as people who generally aren't just here to leach info. By ponying up the 40 bucks it shows me a vested interest in the site and the others on the site. I'm not trying to say if you don't pay your not worthy but paying shows commitment in my eyes. Being around for a long time now I know that you are a vested contributing member and i'de be happy to share information with you any day. I tried to stay out of this thread and now here I am. I do disagree with the statement that it's our responsibility to report violators. Maybe ethically but certainly not legally. Personally I mind my own business. I know there's the rational that the fish over the limit are my business because I'm a tax payer but when I go fishing that's what I'm out to do. Go fishing. Not play junior ranger. Just my 2c.
Goose I wanted to thank you for your input on my other post. I would have said it but then it would have brought it to the forefront and there wasn't much interest so I didn't say anything. I appreciate your input and I agree with you in regards to this subject and really appreciate your help. I wasn't trying to shank Skiman but I kind of took offense at his statement. If it wasn't for trolls and wannabe's you wouldn't have members. You and I are on the same page. I'm not looking for a fight. I'm just here to fish.
Abel1, No, my comments were not meant to belittle anyone. Yet, when I read a post from someone who thinks itís OK to break the rules and overharvest, it really chaps my hide. In my opinion, not I, nor anyone else on this site is any better than anybody else. I have the tendency to not always articulate my thoughts as well as I should, and that gets me in trouble. You donít have to be an FX member to contribute in a positive and constructive manner. I just happen to be one because I believe in this site, and what itís trying to accomplish...the sharing of fishing information. Please accept my sincere apology. By the way , Iím just here to fish too! Ski
Good post Goose. I'm sure a lot of people google a lake and type fishing after the name of it and most searches bring a person to this site where they lurk the forum for info on hot lakes to visit. I go on CPW's site and look for lakes in areas I know will have low pressure, I spend a lot of gas and time driving to these places and even more time scouting the lakes for best fishing spots. I do it all because it is my passion to fish and challenge my self, a lot of people think it's crazy I do it all and not eat fish. I don't pay for FX+ and never will because I like to discover things on my own, but when it comes to other knowledge of the technicalities of fishing that is where I bet FX+ would be useful.
I have fate in CPW, once they receive enough complaints about Antero they'll get more active there and those officers will watch people from afar the same way they've been doing it at Twin Lakes and Taryall.
Skiman " In my opinion, not I, nor anyone else on this site is any better than anybody else. "
Thank you Skiman. I owe it to people like you/Goosehunter/Kris Johnson and Trevor Young to join and to be honest I have been too busy and too lazy to do it. Kris provided me with a wealth of information when I inquired about one of his lakes and to Trevor for providing Fish Explorer with one of the finest hand made fishing nets and I being the lucky own who won it. And to everyone I have virtually met whether we agreed or not. Have a safe and enjoyable ice fishing season.
A couple things. First if you were on this website just to fish, than why take the time to write what your writing. That's not fishing. Thats taking the topic of fishing to another place.... the web. There are many beneficial things that can be gained by partaking in this website. There are things to lose as well. Not Hotspotting, trolls and whatever terms you come up with. Just more fish are being caught, litter being spread and overall more people crowding the fishing spots because of this site.
What im saying is not to do illegal activities, in fact don't. I'm saying go fish instead of worrying about what so many other fisherman are doing. Everyone views fishing a little different. One mans way of fishing is not the same as others. A rule that works for one person doesnt work for everyone. Get over it and go fish a place where people aernt around you taking more fish than "they should". And stop talking about it. My 2 cents thanks for yours and reading mine
Positive, I see you still just donít get it. What one person does effects everyone, and that includes over harvesting. I maintain my position that laws and rules apply equally to all. This site is about exchanging ideas as well as information about fishing. If I choose to relay my feelings about a certain topic or issue, that is MY right, just as itís MY right to disagree with something or someone. Accept it, you do not run or moderate this forum.
Im a firm believer that Antero should be a state park and have the associated fees applied, and even to have a slot limit.
It is such a special place, truly amazing fish could grow there if slots existed in my opinion. (not to say amazing fish dont already grow there). Im all for stricter regulations honestly across the dam state. With so many people moving here it makes sense to me.
Ok. However now I know where I can catch that particular species of fish and I'll be paying them a few visits next year. Same for Grayling. Nothing wrong with what they did its one of the benefits to visiting the site. If it hadn't been for other members I wouldn't have found the Tiger Trout. I don't fish to eat I fish to fish and anytime a new opportunity presents itself it becomes a challenge which keeps the hobby alive. To me though "Hot Spotting" comes in various forms and is everywhere if you pay attention. Thanks to a local radio show I know where I can catch grayling right next to the highway. :)
3Wayfisher, been saying for years that Antero should be a state park. The first time I was shouted down. Because no one wanted to pay. I believe that the good fishermen will come anyway. I also said no free camping. Fees to fish fees to camp. That will weed out some freeloaders. I donít go fishing to feed the family. Itís my passion. If the lake no longer winter kills. Then change the regulations. The main reason Antero has been so lax about limits is because of the winter kill possibly. The well....they may die this winter anyway mentally can go away. 25 years ago the Denver post wrote something to that effect. Now with a deeper lake hopefully that will not happen.
Actually, I think i'm the idiot, #1 for calling skiman an idiot. I'm sorry that I said that. #2 I'm an idiot for thinking that I could explain the mentality in just a few sentences. I can't. I am attempting to show a mentality where numbers didnt matter when going fishing. Catch no catch, whatever. I have only caught 5 fish all 2017. So maybe I shouldn't have even put my 2 cents in.
Reply by: Life of fishing Posted: 11/16/2017 2:48:02 AM Points: 0
All you fxr I'm on here everyday high horse guy's no life! Yes I'm a troll you guys are too all i see from you guys is bullying telling people to not hot spot thinking you know more won't listen or try to understand what other people say wow really. This site sucks because of you guys and there's better sites out there won't name it don't need to. This site isn't good because of guy's like you I've seen your get together picture's bunch of losers lol really. Get a life Why are you fxr high horse guy's on here? To make yourself feel important