Post By: Jimmy Ice Posted: 2/13/2017 1:10:37 PMPoints: 538
I don't know if it's catching some decent size lakers or a nice cat which got me excited about catching a fish that puts up a fight but I've been thinking a lot about carp fishing ever since last year when I got into my first one, it was 27 inches and the best fighting fish I've ever caught. Since than I haven't been able to hook one and am really getting an itch for one.
I caught that one using wonder bread with strawberry jam from McDonald's.
I may be asking too much and by all means don't even respond if you dont want to but I'd like to know what some of you suggest is the best bait for Grass Carp specifically or what you've used that may have work well?
Reply by: bron Posted: 2/13/2017 2:29:43 PM Points: 33587
You are on the right track with the wonder bread. Best advice I can give you is bring several flavors of bread, and unflavored, and worms and corn. If one works stick with it until it doesnt anymore then start trying the other baits.
This is my dads recipe for dough ball that I found after he passed. We always did good with it as I remember growing up. I just made some and added a can of whole kernel corn fluid and all. Mix it up to the consistency of bread dough and make sure it is sticky so it will stay on the hook. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet with the corn added hopefully soon. Good luck
Reply by: Jimmy Ice Posted: 2/14/2017 9:29:54 AM Points: 538
Hey guy sorry I was away from my phone and computer for sometime last night.
Bron, I looked up Harper it's in Louisville is a bit too far from me. Stearns is too but I can make it happen. What part of town do you reside in, maybe a lake you know is good for carp that is easier for me to get to.
I like the idea of getting together, I'd love to learn a bit more about carp fishing.
Bron, I am good any weekend both Saturday or Sunday..
Reply by: Jimmy Ice Posted: 2/14/2017 9:56:50 AM Points: 538
No wonder I haven't been catching them, see this is exactly why I'd like to pick some of your brains about the fish. I keep trying hard thinking I'll get a bite. I'm game and sounds like Richard and few others are.
Reply by: ralpert Posted: 2/14/2017 10:49:52 AM Points: 143
You got me excited Bron. Sienna is close by and I never thought of targeting carp there. Guess I will have to fish my regular spots. I am going to head to the store and get the ingredients to make a few batches of bait.
I though he was talking about grass carp? Grass carp are not eating trebles with corn. for grass I have had good luck with fruits and a float and small green olive slip rigged. Carp are biting great right now just got 6 the other day in the river on my fly rod.
Reply by: Jimmy Ice Posted: 2/15/2017 11:34:32 AM Points: 538
And honestly my question is on any carp, it's just that grass ones happen to be the big ones.
One of you said it's hard to catch a grass carp legally. That's pretty funny considering how a lot of counties don't like the over population and will attempt to pass a rule to allow bow hunting them or may have to use the stunning to get rid of some. Why not allow fisherman to harvest them and make it a hell of a lot easier and spend less money trying to reduce the numbers?
Corn, maize (prepared), small raw vegetables, fruit flavored baits, floating bread chunks, dough balls, all can work great for grass carp. Natural baits (worms, flies, etc) would be highly effective in cold water, the carp are looking for a bait that's easily digestible in these cold conditions.
Do remember, most grass carp (we are not talking the vile big head, or silver carp here) were stocked deliberately, and at a cost, for weed control. I always recommend returning grass carp to swim again, unless there is a specific local rule on that water to remove them. Their life span is fairly short in carp years, they grow quick, get the job done, then perish. The plan is for them, when released by CPW, is for the fish to be sterile and unable to breed - of course, in very rare instances, nature finds a way !
I also scale down the size of my gear used in cold water, smaller hooks, smaller bait, tiny amounts (or none at all) of pack bait.
Rivers would be my go to destination for sure (especially if I had > 0 ability with a fly rod, or a floating clear bubble + leader to a fly), the carp have to swim, they have to keep moving, thus they have to continue eating.
For lakes, still bodies of water, try the shallow areas, that receive the most sun, warm up quicker, or anywhere with an inlet if the water is warmer. Cover, weeds, brush, the carp can hold up in as well.
Most catch reports I have seen this year are from our rivers, yet some are from lakes that have already thawed. The carp do seem to be feeding earlier this year, could be a great season ahead !
Best of luck ! John <still coming out of hibernation>
Reply by: FISHRANGLER Posted: 2/16/2017 7:23:21 AM Points: 1682
Bron I'd be interested in chasing some grassers we targeted the record a few times last year. Tricky fish to catch unless your using a lure 😂 lol This is one of a few common carp landed this winter. James, John FINNEY's buddy has been landing them too probably making John sick.
Reply by: brookieflyfisher Posted: 2/16/2017 7:40:38 AM Points: 6130
Best grass carp bait I ever used was simply flour mixed with strawberry jam. Have caught a ton of grass carp with it. Mix the two until you obtain a dough-like mixture. It forms a pretty heavy doughball so just form it into a ball on a sz. 4 hook with no sinkers or anything.
Dried fruit like craisins, raisins, dates etc. work too. Corn tends to just catch commons.
They're pretty dumb for any fruit-flavored bait so the most important part is finding the ponds with more grass carp than commons. Mary's Lake in RMA has some huge grassers, if you live on the north side I would start there. Everywhere else it's just a matter of going to these ponds on sunny days and looking for fish basking near the surface. They'll often hang out under fruit-bearing trees/bushes like crabapples, mullberries, and russian olives.
If you want to get them on the fly, wait for when the cottonwood trees start shedding, They'll readily come up to eat the seeds and a big white fly will do the job.