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Free Spooling Reel Question

Post By: Catfish Johnson      Posted: 7/23/2015 2:11:45 PM     Points: 1681    
Had a couple free spooling reels seize up completely in the last month. They were diawa opus BRi bite and run. Looking for a 4000-6000 series that is built to last. I would prefer a reel that is heavy and tough rather than lightweight and fragile. The diawas were great at first, but the frames really started to flex after 6 months of (heavy) use. have started catching some nice grass carp lately and they are taking their toll on my gear. Nothing worse than having a reel go down after hiking a couple of miles into a fishing spot with just two rods.

I am looking to replace them and wanted to see if anyone out there has used the PENN spinfisher LL or the Shimano Baitrunner. If so, how do they hold up over time?
 Reply by: opencage      Posted: 7/25/2015 9:02:24 PM     Points: 164691    
I don't have any personal experience with them, but I would guess that a couple folks on here might. Hopefully someone will chime in with some good info for ya. Good luck.
 Reply by: FISHRANGLER      Posted: 7/25/2015 10:17:05 PM     Points: 1682    
I do know what your going through
You should get something at about 4500 but a 5000 would be better depending on what kind of rid your using if distance is not a issue Rod doesn't matter if your going for distance get the large penn you won't regret it
I do Have both them reels doubles and no problems but I like the shemono better
The penn is cool too
Neither will fail you
I think the penns I have are the ssv6500ll the shimanos is the 6000D those are on my sons rods. I don't have them handy or I'd give you more info
Right now bass pro has both models your asking about
We use these for both cats and carp.
I do like the penn battles the most though for straight up Cattin got a couple hand fulls of those
Gander sells a bait runner under there name that's a 4000 salt series that's pretty good it's about the most affordable imo but I think is made by diawa and they have a larger one too but I don't like that one
When I was going through all this a while back I did a bunch of research on each model
The trouble I found is not being able to put my hands on the cheaper stuff like the diawas
So I went with bass pro and bought the higher end stuff and have not regretted it
I took my rods into bass pro and matched them to the reels, that's important if your doing any distance casting
 Reply by: old troll      Posted: 7/26/2015 7:42:46 AM     Points: 1076    
Have a Penn that I've used a lot in both fresh and salt water. In my opinion a very good reel.

Have a Penn that I've used a lot both in fresh and salt water with no problems. Would certainly recommend them.

 Reply by: Catfish Johnson      Posted: 7/27/2015 11:14:08 AM     Points: 1681    
Thanks for the info. Have been leaning towards the Penn, just wanted to make sure it was worth the extra money. If you ever want to pick up the cheaper diawa baitrunners, Big Carp Tackle has 4 or 5 options from $90 -50. Thought about trying the opus plus, but it appears to have the same frame as the one that failed on me.

Picked up a fierce 5000 to get through the weekend, seems better suited to circle hooks than carp fishing. I like the capacity compared to 4000 sized spools. The drag is more than enough for anything in CO. The fierce works, but has enough resistance in freespool (drag completely loose) to reel in a 3 oz weight. I'm a little worried that this is enough to send a rod flying into the water on a hard take. I have half a dozen of the fierce 2000s that i use for ice fishing and this is not the case. Zero drag has very little resistance for the 2000s. The 5000 does not have an anti-reverse release either. Don't use this very often, but feel like it is important to have a couple times a year when the line binds up under the spool. I am not saying that the fierce 5000 is a bad reel, just not ideal for free spool fishing. It will work well for circle hooks and big cats though. I will probably test out the battle (5000) on the other rod to see how is compares to the fierce.

Thanks again for the feedback.
 Reply by: shiverfix      Posted: 7/27/2015 1:03:52 PM     Points: 3702    
I bought an Okuma Epixor Bait Feeder 80 in anticipation of a trip to the gulf that ended up not happening, so I haven't used it yet. I am thinking about trying ti for carp fishing just to try it out.
 Reply by: Hyak420      Posted: 7/27/2015 2:46:32 PM     Points: 65    
I have a Wavespin DH4000 that I picked up about 7 years ago. Used it quite a bit for Silvers in Puget Sound, WA and it still works great. Here's the link for the spec sheet -

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