Post By: escottsnyder Posted: 2/16/2015 7:06:46 PMPoints: 0
I've never fished for tigers before, closest thing would be pike, which I hear are dummer than tigers. I would really love to catch a tiger muskie on a fly rod, does anyone have any tips or advice for going after them up at pinewood? I've heard mixed results but no tips.
Evan - look up Dave Coulsen and contact him on his skipper link. If you look through the field editors you'll find him. If anyone would have an idea on how to get one on a fly rod it would be him. There are tiger musky in CO but they are few and far between, I hope you're a young man because by the time you get one, you may have grandkids. Of course you might be one of the very few very fortunate.
Another person to ask would be Will Dykstra, he guides for tigers her in CO and works with tightline outdoors. He is usually pretty good about giving advice.
good luck. Oh and if you do catch one.. I not only want pics but you better have video too!
Reply by: the fishing dj Posted: 2/16/2015 9:41:07 PM Points: 25870
I've only hooked into one ever up there, and it wasn't on a fly. I was fishing by the entrance to the little cove at the end of the dam, and it ate a black and red spinnerbait. It pretty much tied the arm of the bait into a knot, ripped of the skirt, chewed up the head, and spit it back out at me. I'm going to push hard for one on the fly this year though. For flies, I'd suggest trying something like a hang time minnow, double deceiver, D&D, or maybe a smaller pattern like a double rainbow or a viking midge. I'd fish a black and red, grey and white, and maybe a rainbow color for the flies. good luck, and be su re to post up if you stick one.
Reply by: pikeNcolorado Posted: 2/17/2015 9:33:57 AM Points: 17676
Spend 10 years fishing for them day in and day out. I would say before I hooked my little guy ( was always targeting the big ones ) I had 60,000 to 70,000 casts with big lures. Hundreds of follows can make a man go insane. It will become an obsession and can get very expensive. Good luck to you and hopefully you get one without waiting 10 years. I had to do it in a lake there was very few, so Pinewood could be a different story.
^^^ if you are serious about catching Musky, rather than waste huge amounts of time chasing them in CO...go to where they live. Probably save yourself lots of time, aggravation, and, in the long run, money.
I haven't spent one day seriously fishing Musky in CO, ever...and I love Musky fishing.
OK... I did bring a Bucktail and Suick to Evergreen one day... but that doesn't count as "serious".
Oh, and then there was the day at Gross...but that doesn't count either.
Hummmm...guess it is addictive... I'll give you that.
Reply by: escottsnyder Posted: 2/18/2015 6:15:23 AM Points: 0
Haha oh man, sounds like I've got a lot of work to do! Thanks for all the info guys. In going to try and cut that cast to fish ratio down a couple hundred casts, I have heard this before though so there is obviously something to it.
Are there any types of presentations that you guys have found work well-ish/better than can be expected in Colorado?
Unfortunately I can't do the traveling thing, so I'll try my luck around here and maybe I'll get lucky... When I do there will be a picture!
Reply by: hcron Posted: 2/18/2015 7:30:01 AM Points: 341
For Muskie at Pinewood- go to the cove where the water swirls around. They love it in there and you can often see them cruising the shores. Try BIG jerk baits as well as 3" crawdad colored tube jigs. Make sure you have big enough gear to horse them out as the current in there is gnarly and there are tons of underwater obstructions they'll tangle you on and snap your line. Good luck!
Reply by: TigerHunter Posted: 2/18/2015 8:08:40 AM Points: 516
I've been chasing Tigers for years... It's extremely rewarding when you do finally get into a few, but it's taken me years. On any given day I feel like I can muster up a follow or two, but after a couple hundred of those without a take your sanity begins to fade. Somehow you convince yourself you just need to spend more time chasing them, so you do and the taunting follows continue. Then finally you'll be on the water when magic happens and somehow it justifies the hundreds of hours spent. I went years without anything to show for my efforts other than follows. Then within a 2 hour span I had three tigers on and lost one that looked to be easily 30 pounds!
Tiger Muskies are without a doubt the toughest species to catch in Colorado, and if you even land one you'll wear that fact like a badge of honor.
Listen, I haven't caught a lot of muskies in my day or really gone after them very much but every single muskie I've hooked has come on the figure 8. I see dudes chasing them at Evergreen and Gross and they never figure 8. It's mind-blowing because in WI it's just automatic. You get the lure to the boat, swing it around a few times to make sure no one's home, then cast again.
Here's a couple of sweet videos: Nice montage of fish on the fig 8: [log in for link] Monster of a fish on the fig 8, and great lessons about staying focused when muskie fishing: [log in for link]
Another handicap you've got is we don't really have a good muskie culture here in CO. You muskie boys in this thread know what I'm talking about, most of you are from WI/MN/ND/MI originally. But here's an explanation to you CO natives and Rocky Mountain types that may be watching this thread.
Here in CO we've got Bass Pro, Cabelas, etc. They've got like one isle of half-respectable muskie stuff. Stuff you look at and scoff because it looks so comically, cartoonishly big and gaudy. I don't blame you, a 10" hot pink/black bucktail looks pretty funny just a few steps away from the 2.5" Trout HD, one of the hottest multispecies lures in CO.
You walk into a bait shop in WI and it's got all the normal stuff. Jigs, plastics, line, rods, etc. Then you walk into the back half of the shop and it is wall-to-wall muskie stuff. Literally thousands of lures. Dozens of brands and hundreds of different models. Bucktails of every imaginable flavor. I mean REAL bucktails, the 2 oz 10 inch double cowgirl monsters that catch the big girls, not those puny little Mepps Muskie Killers. You'll have topwaters, big spinnerbaits, swimbaits, bulldogs, etc. etc. etc.
Then add to all that the fact that every shop is owned by a total muskie nerd who probably would rather get back on the water than talk to you. He'll have a few unique homebrew lures behind the counter that are specifically tailored to whatever water he guides on. And you can bet he'll go to his grave before telling you how to make one.
The only equivalent we have to that crazy, life-altering dedication here in CO are some mountain fly shops. Even then fly fishing isn't nearly as expensive as muskie fishing.
Take a look at this link for a source of good muskie lures: [log in for link]
So be prepared to fish hard. Muskie aren't something you casually chase. This is the crack cocaine of an already addicting sport. GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND.
There is a ton of fishing to be optimistic about in this state. Hopefully you still go out and target some Tigers even with what some of us are saying. I think all of us have a sour taste in mouth that for some reason we keep coming back for more.
^ Agreed. What with the CPW cultivating their own pure muskie broodstock in that private lake in Bow-Mar we will see a Tiger Muskie explosion in the next 5-10 years. Muskie fishing in this state has been hamstrung by a lack of availability of muskie to stock over the past 10 years. We've already got plenty of pike, and now we'll have the muskie to cross them with.
There are local lakes that have been stocked with tigers. But they are still young but thriving. The biggest tiger I have seen came out of Chatfield. It was 22 pounds......it was caught in a net during the walleye spawn a few years back and they took measurement. Maybe it still swims.
New Mexico has several lakes that offer great Tiger fishing. I caught a 46" fish and when I released it. No sh*t it swam around the boat and glared at me. What is interesting is we caught them on much smaller baits then typical. And we also caught them on boards. They can pull on under.
Reply by: No_jok_oh Posted: 2/21/2015 8:53:16 AM Points: 25
I have fished pinewood a lot. Only on my 1398th cast. And still nothing. I have seen them go under my pole in the inlet. My other half seen one just two feet off shore. And emptied my tackle box at it. And it sit there and laughed. It is said. If a musky sees you. Then you may as well move on. However. When the fish and game person swings by to count your catch for the survey. They have told stories and pictures of a few really big ones. Caught on green power bait. And they were bottom fishing for trout.
Reply by: spicyhombre Posted: 2/21/2015 10:18:14 AM Points: 5818
I went there this summer and I followed my joes fly in and then just hung out and laughed at me for 15 minutes before getting bored with me. I should have figure 8 my fly at the end but instead I did what I do with pike which is let it drop and twitch it. He was only about 12"
Reply by: realelabogado Posted: 2/25/2015 11:09:37 AM Points: 25
I just moved right across from pinewood, and have also decided that I have sinned enough in my life that I should go hunting for muskies as penance. Let me know if you need a partner in this idiotic pursuit.