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Lake: Eleven Mile Reservoir

Anybody know what the story is about the Eleven mile Burros/Donkeys?

Post By: BassTrout      Posted: 2/21/2010 4:09:14 PM     Points: 4804    
I know most of you have seen them and was just curious to see if anybody knew the reason why there is a herd of donkeys on the Nothwest part of Eleven Mile. I have also seen the herd of cattle on the same spot.
They all seem to be free-roaming and sometimes get in the way of traffic!
 Reply by: fishhooker      Posted: 2/21/2010 4:29:15 PM     Points: 3328    
The rumor I have heard is that they are from the cripple creek wild burro herd. I don't know if that is fact, but I do know that they are wild and not friendly or tame. The cattle I don't know, I haven't seen them that I remember.
 Reply by: rjslate88      Posted: 2/21/2010 4:39:48 PM     Points: 806    
I ran into them on saturday. There were cows mixed in with the burros. I thought one of the bulls was going to charge my truck. Started to run right at me. The burros just stand in the middle of road and stare at you.
 Reply by: BassTrout      Posted: 2/21/2010 4:49:47 PM     Points: 4804    
Well I hope others chime in and we get the real scoop. I did almost ran them over one early morning a couple months ago, and did see them all again last Saturday.

Thanks again!
 Reply by: CDOT      Posted: 2/21/2010 5:14:22 PM     Points: 183    
I have been told, don't know that I believe it, that it is what is sometimes called "Open Range" or "Free Range", meaining No fences allowed, and if you hit one of the animals you can be ticketed. It is not the only place in Colo that has it. I have run across this many times in the back country Jeeping.
 Reply by: ducati      Posted: 2/21/2010 5:19:06 PM     Points: 2295    
I love seeing those guys up there, they have stuck there head all the way in my truck window looking for a handout. I might be wrong on this one, but I think all of Colorado is an open range state.
 Reply by: Diesel984      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:30:16 PM     Points: 1900    
This one I CAN Answer For Sure -
I'm actually a Deputy With Teller County (the area where Cripple Creek resides in) They Are Wild Yes, But During the Winter, One of the local residents (can't remember who) takes them in and Feeds Them...

During the summer, They just roam all through Cripple Creek, Into Gillette Flats and South into Victor/Goldfield...And LET ME BE THE FIRST to Say...If you're driving through the County, or even in Cripple Creek...The Donkey's ALWAYS have the Right-of-Way LOL!

Some Will walk up to you, Others will run...Still pretty Cool either way )
Nate
 Reply by: Diesel984      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:33:41 PM     Points: 1900    
Here's a Couple Pix of Them From Last Summer....They Seem to enjoy the Park right outside of the Courthouse )
 Reply by: Diesel984      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:34:17 PM     Points: 1900    
and a couple more )
 Reply by: Diesel984      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:35:23 PM     Points: 1900    
One other Thing to add to this -
The herd IS said to be the remainder of the wild Burros that the Miners used WAYYYYYYYYYYYY back in the day...I forgot to add that in one of my earlier posts )
 Reply by: Bullyhunter      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:43:15 PM     Points: 3517    
I read an article last year that says exactly whay diesel is saying. Off spring of the miners donkeys from a long time ago. The article was actually written because someone had shot one of them in the hind quarter with a .22 and people were pissed,which I understand.They offer entertainment while picking a parking spot before fishing. The 28th is the last day we can park in the field so we may not be able to get that close to them until the fall when they open the fied back up. I like them none the less.
 Reply by: BassTrout      Posted: 2/21/2010 6:44:55 PM     Points: 4804    
Wow Diesel1984, that is some good info there, thanks! I have noticed that they are pretty tame and they let you get close to them. Next time I will take some pictures and dedicate a whole post just for them! JK

Thanks again!
 Reply by: gatorjoe      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:23:36 PM     Points: 263    
Just to clarify something....if I accidentally hit one of them I get a ticket? So then does that hold true for deer? Elk? A squirrel? It seems a little ludicrous. I understand they don't want people hitting them, but if a deer runs in front of me I don't get ticketed, and I doubt anyone is driving arou d aiming a car or trck at them.
 Reply by: Two Ponies      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:26:00 PM     Points: 1472    
Colorado is a "Fence Out" state. Meaning that private landowners must fence out unwanted livestock. Goverment property must fence out their land as well.

Most unfenced National Forest, State, and BLM land is "Open Range" grazing. Grazing of domestic livestock is allolwed with permits. . . The exception is for wild horses and burros. Wild burro and horse herds are managed by the BLM. CDOT is right. All livestock has right of way on roadways. In some areas the fine is higher if you hit livestock than if you hit a pedestrian(so I've been told).

As tempting as it is to feed or pet them I would ask that you don't from my experience growing up and help manage the Sand Wash herd.

Let them be wild. . . I envy their freedom.

Respectfully,
Two Ponies
 Reply by: ducati      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:27:18 PM     Points: 2295    
No, you would not get a ticket. Great info Diesel I have always wondered if someone out there owned them or what.
 Reply by: Diesel984      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:39:36 PM     Points: 1900    
Im NOT 100% sure if you'd get a ticket...But it is possible...
If ya'll roll through Cripple Creek (one of these days) Stop off @ the Jackass Cafe (top of the hill off Bennett Ave on the right side) They've got some pretty killer food, and some awesome T-Shirts...all about the Donkey's
Nate
 Reply by: Two Ponies      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:44:14 PM     Points: 1472    
You could get a ticket for careless driving if you hit livestock on a roadway marked as open range (I have witnessed this). . . You also are liable for restitution to the owner.

Two Ponies
 Reply by: ducati      Posted: 2/21/2010 7:53:57 PM     Points: 2295    
Yes you could get a ticket I shouldn't have been so definitive in my answer that was my fault...... but in my 10 years of law enforcement and numerous crashes I have covered I have never written anyone or worked with anyone who has written someone a careless driving ticket for hitting wild or domestic animals. Obviously it happens, I believe Two Ponies saw a ticket written for careless driving, but it is not the norm. I guess I should have said that instead of it just wouldn't happen. Now it can easily turn into a civil issue with the owner wanting compensation for his lost livestock.
 Reply by: BCIII      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:00:22 PM     Points: 2736    
So I guess I cannot use them to pull my sled on the ice???? It just seems so easy. Lol
 Reply by: Two Ponies      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:03:44 PM     Points: 1472    
ducati,

Hope you don't think I was "calling" you out. . . Thanks for your input and service to your community.

Respectfully,
Two Ponies
 Reply by: ducati      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:04:31 PM     Points: 2295    
I don't know, theres a couple of them out there that might let you, but I hear those things can kick something terrible when they feel like it. :)
 Reply by: ducati      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:11:16 PM     Points: 2295    
Not at all Two Ponies, you are correct you can get a ticket and I shouldn't have made a blanket statement that you wouldn't get a ticket. And thankyou.
 Reply by: Maynard G Krebs      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:15:57 PM     Points: 156    
I think the donkeys enjoy watching folks out on the Eleven Mile ice slipping n sliding n falling down in nasty windy n freezing weather conditions all the while saying to themselves ....... " and they call us dumb jackasses ! "
 Reply by: gatorjoe      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:22:46 PM     Points: 263    
Ok. Thanks for the clarification. I guess technically if I hit "anything" there is the possibility of a ticket. If tickets aren't the norm then I guess I'm ok with it....BUT I still think it's ridiculous! And restitution to the owner? For accidentally hitting an animal on public land. That would be quite the interesting civil case if I was involved. Haha.
 Reply by: BassTrout      Posted: 2/21/2010 8:28:15 PM     Points: 4804    
That is very good information on those Donkeys, thanks to all!
 Reply by: C-DOG      Posted: 2/21/2010 9:25:49 PM     Points: 2111    
thank you deisel for all the great info--but if anybody hits any freerangeing animal isnt the DOW contacted--and then dont you face a new "investigation" other than "civil" not to mention the "rancher" i have heard that the "DOW" comes down harder than anyone else.
 Reply by: brooktroutking      Posted: 2/21/2010 9:42:31 PM     Points: 353    
My friend was camping at 11-mile he and his buddy were drinking rather heavy whiskey I think and his friend decided to jump on one of the donkeys and ride it was the biggest mstake he has ever made the donkey turned and bit him and took a chunk out of his leg, he wont do that again. He had to have surgery on his thigh. A good reason not to drink. BTK
 Reply by: reconfisher      Posted: 2/21/2010 10:14:35 PM     Points: 9549    
ive ran into em a bunch of times...they will come inside ur truck if u open ur window!!
 Reply by: C-DOG      Posted: 2/21/2010 10:28:49 PM     Points: 2111    
they look like camels to me
 Reply by: JED      Posted: 3/4/2010 8:31:04 PM     Points: 4264    
We seen some in the middle of the road, and my buddy Lonnie went up and petted them, he thought about trying to ride one, but we talked him out of it LOL
Johnny JED
 Reply by: BassTrout      Posted: 3/4/2010 8:35:44 PM     Points: 4804    
That is sweet! Please leave the burros alone before the DoW finds out.............LOL

Nice picture Johnny!
 Reply by: Bullyhunter      Posted: 3/4/2010 8:38:24 PM     Points: 3517    
I called to warn the burros that the lease is closed. I hope they dont get a ticket for wandering off the established road.

BassTrout, I e-mailed you a few days ago did you get it?
 Reply by: BassTrout      Posted: 3/4/2010 8:44:05 PM     Points: 4804    
Yes I did, sorry I just checked my emails and it is an account I don't really use much and use it just for the forum. I do have your number now and will call you tomorrow morning for some possible good news. If you have a chance tomorrow too, please give niteskies a call.
 Reply by: Marky      Posted: 3/5/2010 1:20:16 PM     Points: 1692    
All I know is if you don't catch any fish at the mile you can always stop and chase after them. It makes me feel better :P
 Reply by: TWOLIPPS      Posted: 3/5/2010 5:26:01 PM     Points: 5    
LET MY BURROS RUN FREE

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