Yeah i had to work like a slave all day. (You suck) If you decide to get a thrownet get a six footer. I got an eight ft n its hard to throw. Dose a great job though if you throw it correctly. Also avoid throwing them on riprap Nice wiper you got too.....
To clear things up on cast nets. I called the DOW today and after speaking with his supervisor this is what he said. Cast nets are legal as long as they are used for bait. No game fish. The first part of 104H refers to the catching of fish not listed in part 2. Any bait caught with them has to be used at that lake and not transported to a different lake or river. Like I said this is not my interpretation of what it says. This is what the DOW told me it means. Fish allowed are as follows.
The only fish species allowed to be taken and used for consumption or personal use as bait (either alive or dead) by fishing, seining, netting, trapping, or dipping are minnows, bluegill, hybrid bluegill, carp, sunfish, gizzard shad, sculpin, white and longnose suckers, yellow perch and rainbow smelt. Statewide bag limits apply to sunfish, bluegill, hybrid bluegills and yellow perch.
Except as otherwise provided by these regulations, live fish collected for use as bait may only be used in the same body of water from which they were collected. In addition, collection and use is allowed in any man-made ditches and canals within one-half mile of the adjoining lake or reservoir. Use of any baitfish collected in those ditches and canals is restricted to only the water from which it was collected and the adjoining lake or reservoir. Baitfish collected under this provision may not be otherwise transported or stored for later use.
My understanding of cast nets has always been that they are legal for bait collection but only in certain counties. In the regs it is specifically listed in the collection of bait fish section that nets are prohibited in certain counties. The counties listed as prohibited cover all of the metro area and pretty much everything on the front range from Boulder to Colorado Springs as well as some others in the state. Look on page 8 of the regs, section 4-F under the heading Use and collection of bait fish [log in for link]
Burner6999...Is it possible the supervisor you talked to was specifically talking about the use of cast nets in counties where they are allowed? If not I sure don't understand why they would list a bunch of counties where netting and seining are prohibited in a section of the regs pertaining to the collection of bait fish. Doesn't make much sense to me.
From the 2012 fishing regulations under the section titled Use and collection of bait fish.
f. The seining, netting, trapping and dipping of fish is prohibited statewide in all natural streams, springs, all waters in Adams, Arapahoe, Boulder, Broomfield, Clear Creek, Denver, Douglas, Gilpin, Elbert, Jefferson and Park counties, and all public standing waters in Rio Grande, Saguache, Conejos, Costilla, Alamosa, Mineral and Hinsdale counties in the Rio Grande drainage. This does not apply to fish handled or produced at commercially licensed aquaculture facilities.
The way I read this is that cast nets for are illegal in all of the counties on the list. I don't know where you plan on using your cast net but if there's a ranger there I'd ask them if it's legal before you start throwing it.
"all waters in Adams, Arapahoe, Boulder, Broomfield, Clear Creek, Denver, Douglas, Gilpin, Elbert, Jefferson and Park counties, and all public standing waters in Rio Grande, Saguache, Conejos, Costilla, Alamosa, Mineral and Hinsdale counties in the Rio Grande drainage. "
not trying to stir the pot, just saying......more "key" words.
That thing says netting of any kind. It says nothing about cast nets in general. I brought that up to the guy and he said that was aimed at game fish. Not bait. So with that paragraph you quoted, in thos counties you cant catch fish in any kind of net. As it clearly states netting. The question I have is how are we supposed to understand the rules if the people who enforce them dont even understand them.
The natural streams and springs is a statewide regulation. It goes on to say "all waters" in the counties on the list not just natural streams and springs.
In the Legal fishing methods section of the regulations (page 9) it says cast nets can only be used for bait fish. It goes on to say see special regulations on page 8 which refers to the restrictions that I listed in my previous post. I agree that it can be confusing, but if you read both sections it clearly states where you can't use a cast net for the collection of bait.
I understand what you are saying but it also says "netting" period. So based on this statement "The seining, netting, trapping, and dipping of fish is prohibited statewide in all natural streams, springs, all waters in Adams, Arapahoe, Boulder, Broomfield, Clear Creek, Denver, Douglas, Gilpin, Elbert, Jefferson, and Park counties, and all public standing waters in Rio Grande, Saguache, Conejos, Costilla, Alamosa, Mineral and Hinsdale counties in the Rio Grande drainage." You can not use any kind of net at chattfield or cherry creek to catch bait. Also I spoke to a DOW customer service rep that told the facts that I posted on this topic.This again is not my own interpretation of the rules. You call them and see what they tell you.
In a few more weeks go to chatty put the biggest spoon you have on and rip through (under) the diving birds,... you can get all the shad you want!
I've had multiple rangers give me wrong information saying I couldn't fish here or there, or with this method or that method,... I tell them sure I can I just read the regs. If you need to, write me a ticket and I'll go fight it. All you have to do is convince the judge!
I totally agree. I have heard different things in the same place from different people. Thats exactly what I am talking about. How are we supposed to know the rules when the rules depend on who you talk to about them.