Post By: adventurer Posted: 7/20/2012 12:44:51 PM Points: 290
I'm saddened by the drought and the effect that is happening to barr lake and the other resivors and ponds. but that being said my Family needs to eat and I want to know if anyone is going out to barr lake to fish???? I have a float tube but would like to go on a boat. I can help pay for gas and beer if you are planning to go but I really need to fill my freezer and don't want to see a bunch of dead fish floating on the banks. so please give me a shout when you are going and I will make plans with you. email@example.com this is not a joke with the price of corn and beef going up i really need this fish.
I am going out in the morning but my boat is already filled up. Maybe i can give you a tow out in the middle. Also i don't think you are gonna be able to get to much meat from there. The fish in barr are verry picky and kind of hard to catch at times. The salvage dosnt start till Monday.
While I am sensitive to your family's need of food, you must understand the CPW (DOW) regulations on possession limits. There are no exceptions, including families in need.
Beef, pork and poultry are forecasted to increase in price by a mere 5%.
Fish to feed your family. Then do it again the next day, and the next and so on.
Before things get too bad visit a food bank for help. They will give you enough food where you and your family will be fed and you will keep your pride knowing that you haven't broken the law, even in desperate times.
I wish you the best of luck on the lake, and on land. Things will turn around for you, don't give up.
Sounds like you need to know what you're taking about before telling a guy where to go get his food and regulations!!!! There are NO REGULATIONS right now at Barr lake due to the severe drought, they are draining the lake for water for the farmers!!!!
ALL State Laws are in place. You must be licensed first of all. So your statement of NO REGULATIONS is invalidated. Licensing is the first and foremost stipulation, and I doubt you would disagree.
The exception in this case is the 'bag and size limit' and 'possession limit' for Barr Lake. It is still against state law to possess a freezer full of fish, regardless of the circumstances. The owner of such fish, 'adventurer', in this case, would be breaking Colorado law by stuffing his freezer.
Read the regs. It's very clear.
Hence my advice to fish daily, feed himself and his family, then do it again the next day, and so on.
Option # 2 is to take home a truck full of fish and have one helluva fishfry with the neighbors and family. Beats letting the fish go to waste. Just don't fill the freezer...
Reply by: stvmansfield39 Posted: 7/27/2012 8:39:04 AM Points: 0
Please check your information. Jumbo Barr and soon to be others DO NOT have any limits. Yes you must have a license but all size limits and bag limits have been lifted due to them draining them. They do not want the fish just to dye. So again Before you post and repost Learn the facts.
But I agree if you can go that far Jumbo would be a much better place to fish.
Reply by: adventurer Posted: 7/27/2012 9:28:55 AM Points: 290
so i do have a fishing license. so if barr has no size limit or possesion It is still illeagle to freeze and stock your refridgeerator?????? that soundsn so dumb to me!!!! I am a law abiding man and have pride I will not go to the food bank as there are too many illeagle people already feeding at the tit of our socity and i for one will not be one of them! secondly teach a man how to fish he will feed his family and they will prosper. go fish for him and he will depend on him forever! I did not mean to start a conflict between members of this site just wanted to feed my family. so I ask again anyone going out to this lake this weekend with a boat that I can jump aboard and I will pay for part of the gas and beer???
Adventurer - I was thinking of going this weekend (early) to Barr lake - if you wanna tag along, you're welcome to come with.
No promises about success though - like others have posted this is a hard lake to figure out so can't promise you f boat load of fish even if the water is low.. just so you have a realistic expectation.
I hope this isn't out of line...but food banks are mostly charity. You're not really "sucking on the tit of society" by using them.
If you pay taxes, and I'm sure you do, then you have paid for government programs like food stamps. We all hate how much we're taxed. It sounds like you're in a position to recoup a small bit of what you've paid in.
Everyone needs help sometimes, and I wish you the best of luck. You shouldn't think you're a free-loader for accessing services that you've paid for.
Good luck fishing, and good luck with everything else.
I'll tell you you're wrong. Try looking here for a little more detail [log in for link] With a valid fishing license and using legal fishing methods anyone can take and keep (possess) as many fish of any size or species from Barr lake. If someone wants to fill two freezers with fish from Barr it's totally legal.
This Barr Lake exception applies to while you are AT THE LAKE, beyond that the possession limit still applies. The at-home possession limit is not superceded. If that were the case, anyone could fish any lake and sneak off with unlimited fish and just say they got them at Barr if the CPW came knocking. Try selling that one when you are facing potential arrest.
You are wrong. Same thing happened with Bonny last year and the rangers specifically stated that you can keep as many as you want, whether they are going in the freezer or getting eaten right away. My buddy is a CPW ranger who informed me the same thing. Try pulling up some of the old Bonny threads from when it was closing and I'm sure you'll see it in there. But you seem like you know it all so I guess if you say it's right it must be. Haha.
Show me a valid exception to state law and I'll be humbled indeed. No where is it printed (that I know of) that it is legal at any time to keep a freezer full of fish you caught in Colorado. The link ZZZ refered to earlier doesn't make any exceptions to this either, but thanks for the reference 'Lake Skipper'.
Badcoyotee...Read your own definition of possession limits on page 3 of the regs. Possession refers to fish in your possession whether it is in the field, transporting, at home, or IN STORAGE. Possession limits at Barr are lifted. That means you can have as many fish from Barr in your possession as you want.
A dishonest person could be way over their possession limit for a particular species caught at a different lake and just claim they came from Barr, but that's where honesty and integrity come into play. It's a risk the CPW is apparently willing to take to make sure as few fish as possible are wasted from the lakes that are being drained or drawn down.
The limits still apply. You can't store more than the CPW allows. This is why I suggested adventurer fish daily instead of filling his freezer. Even though Barr is in salvage mode, the home possession limit still applies.
I am sensitive to his plight as well as that of the CPW. Everyone hates our fish resources going to waste. I just want people to understand the regulation and what it is meant for.
If I fished there day and nite and caught all the fish to fill my freezer, not only would I be breaking the law, but I'd also be being unfair to other fishers.
The link I posted was a press release from the CPW. It specifically states that the Bag, POSSESSION, and size limits are suspended for Barr. If possession is defined as fish in your possession whether in the field, home or Storage that means you can keep and store(freeze) as many fish from Barr as you want. It's kind of the whole idea behind a fish salvage. The fish get caught, kept, and eaten instead of rotting in the sun on the dried up lake bed.
Just because they took off the limit at barr does not mean all the fish will die. They will still have over 400 acres of water. Hopefully the rain will come. As far as filling the freezer, first you have to catch at least one fish. Hope it's not a carp. Happy fishing!! :)
ok badcoyote if i went to wyoming and kept my limit of walleye there which is 6 then a week later i go to south dakota and keep my limit of 4 which puts me at 10 plus my 5 fish limit here that means im over Colorados possession limit. and ya i may have caught them in three states but how will DOW have proof of that?
Reply by: adventurer Posted: 7/28/2012 10:41:28 AM Points: 290
what is better fish dead on the water? Or food in my familys belly???? seems like a no brainer to me coyotee. I'm not wasteing the fish and with the salvage I'm pretty sure I can keep the park pass as kind of my recipt showing that I did get them from barr lake RIGHT??? No way would I ever goto another lake and say I caught those fish anywhere else. I pay taxes and i obey the LAW!! what I don't do is condem anyone for trying to feed his family and live a good life!! But you are not me and I can only hope you have a great day and keep your lines tight and happy fishing.
Ok I will get my to sense in. I have read it and the way it reads is possession lint is lifted until further notice. What are ya all arguing about? It is going to good use. The only thing you need is a valid fishing license and a freezer. Go get the fish feed your family.