Post By: Shorecastn Posted: 7/18/2012 7:27:01 AM Points: 77
I am so sick of people sitting so dam close to me at the dam when there is PLENTY of room around, a party of 3 just set up all around me. Then have the nerve to smile while walking within TWO feet of all my gear, I think I can smell what they had for breakfast they are so close. This is not why I come to fish. Sorry for the rant, its too early to call anyone and bitch about these donkeys. As I am typing this these a holes are running back and forth between each other right in front of my lines. GRRRRRR!!!
Reply by: Hey Jack! Posted: 7/18/2012 7:39:12 AM Points: 727
Step 1: Put down phone Step 2: Make eye contact with gaggle Step 3: Inform them they are not being very polite and ask them to move along and if they refuse, see step 4 Step 4: Move
Reply by: Bassackwards Posted: 7/18/2012 7:52:00 AM Points: 2327
Just remember people are like sheep, they will tend to herd together. Maybe this was their first time there, they saw you and said "it must be good here" that's no excuse, just some reasoning.
Most people respond well if you ask them nice to give you a little space, just ask in a polite way.
Or you can always start to cast over there lines until they leave.
Try something new, just sit there and talk to yourself out loud, have an argument with yourself, nothing says get out of here....like crazy.
Reply by: Abel1 Posted: 7/18/2012 9:11:17 AM Points: 99
I lived in Seattle and fished the piers. Some of them are small and are very busy all times of the day. Some cultures have no sense of space (not intended as a cut) because that is what they are used too. It was not uncommon to be standing next to your wife and have someone cut right in between the 2 of you and fish. It was quite an adjustment. At the same time I fished a small creek in Bellingham during the salmon run where you had to be shoulder to shoulder just for the opportunity. We should all respect each others space especially when there is a lot of it. Sometimes its just the way it is. I hear you. I would be gritting my teeth to. What can you do?
Reply by: Lloyd Tackitt Posted: 7/18/2012 10:40:34 AM Points: 1750
Cough several times, then spit a big lugy, then act embarassed and say "It's this tuberculosis I picked up in Haiti. Doc thinks it might be the drug resistant type." I'll give you odds they suddenly remember they have to be somewhere else.
Reply by: lewdog Posted: 7/18/2012 11:00:47 AM Points: 691
Hey bro just inform them what they're doing isn't good fisherman's etiquette. If they don't move down a ways, start hucking big rocks out there say it stirs the inactive fish up then tie on a huge jighead and start casting across lines till they get the point,. Acting like a bigger jerk usually dose the trick. "Treat others with respect they give you ". Be it good or bad.
And they are probably going to keep crowding people until someone tells them that it is poor etiquette. Is it really that hard to say "would you guys mind giving me a bit of elbow room?"
If you use the solution of being a tool about it.. I don't personally think you are any better than they are.
I happen to agree with Ajax on this one. Why be a jerk back to someone being a jerk to begin with? All that does is lower you to their level and make you look just as bad as they do. If you approach a situation in a negative manner all it will do is cause them to react negatively and possibly create a confrontation. If you ask then "would you mind giving me a little space here, we have the whole lake" with a smile on your face you may get a positive reaction back from them.
There was a language barrier, so I moved down some, then the guys came to help net every fish I caught. It still bothers me that I was originally moved in on, but at the end of the day you (don't remember your handle) are right about different cultures behaving different ways.
I do like some of the other suggestions as well though.
Ahhh... The language barrier... I retract my earlier statement... and return to my daisy red rider bb gun theory.. Understandable in all languages.. A few bb's to the butt and they move out of range.. may only be 50yards.. but its something..
Even with a language barrier a smile goes a long ways...
Of course that is easier said then done. I would probably freak out if some guys (especially that didnt speak english) were trying to help me net fish I caught. Talk about hitting a nerve lol, that would be the grand papy of all nerves and I would probably lose it...
Reply by: skiman Posted: 7/19/2012 5:49:12 AM Points: 511
ajax... The "red-rider" theory is called "felony menacing". If you don't believe me, just look up the statute. It's just not worth it to exercise "maschismo" in this day and age. If it were me, I 'd simply pack up and move. In my opinion, there isn't a dang fish in the lake worth getting panties in a bunch over. It's not just rudeness at the lake or stream...just go to a grocery or department store if you want to see rudeness...and that's just the staff! I think some battles just aren't worth the effort or the risk. Good Fishing! Ski
Reply by: Coloradomrg Posted: 7/19/2012 6:08:56 AM Points: 2072
Only you know what you are comfortable with web it comes to dealing with rude behaviors. I would imagine they didn't know they were being rude... Although I'm a fairly vocal person and I probably would have said something, even if it meant having to explain it.
I'm a hot head though... And there have been plenty of times that me 'explaining' hasn't come out right.
Ajax... "Phew..." for a minute there I thought you were advocating an uprising! My point is there are people out there that just might do something like that thinking it's ok. No harm, no foul I hope...hard to tell humor on the web! Good Fishing! Ski
Bobl I did alright, haven't been there much but its hot so you know the routine... Big weight bigger globe of powerbait, and just wait. See I am a poet.
Bassackwards, you bring up an excellent point. The "anglers" on this forum are like a herd of sheep in many ways. It's sad but very entertaining - so much nonsense.I love when people get upset for no reason like shortcast, get over it. There are more important things to worry about than if your fishing is disturbed by a crowd. And then there are those that will say I fish to get away from people and I do not want to be crowded, oh well, get over it. It's not the end of the world. Get your panties out of a bunch and fish already. I know they are not trying to imitate whatever you are doing I'm sure of. And now you'll get the herd of sheep, the illogical forum posters on this site to respond saying that I am wrong. Oh well. Typical human activity.
Carry a fly rod, someone gets to close - switch to it and warn them, "careful, last time I tried this I ripped a guys ear off" Then start swinging it around in a big circle.
I have struggled with this subject a lot this year. [log in for link]
People fishing off boat docks are getting to be a problem as well. It makes it tough to launch or trailer a boat. Spread out people! You will catch more fish!
I have fished this place for years now and it has always been the same on the dam side so I made the choice long ago to make the effort and go to the spots on the back side of the reservoir and get great fish, you can even rent a bike to make it an easier trip. I wont even approach the dam because there is no respect on the shore, language, culture barrier or whatever, I wouldn't dream of going to another country and acting the way some of these people act and I would sure learn the language.
I am going to post an extremely unpopular viewpoint.. please sit down...
Yesterday, I had a guest in my group from Poland. He explained to me how difficult it is to fish in his country because of all the red tape. Two weeks ago a German guest explained the same thing. Today, I had two children doing cannon balls into the sweetest hole I was trying to put my clients into.
All I could think about while those kids were bombing the hole and the Europeans discussing trials of being an outdoorsman... Thank God we can jump in the holes. Thank God we can fish and enjoy the outdoors.
Just move down a little bit or say hello and offer some advice.
Reply by: Badfish II Posted: 7/28/2012 11:41:56 PM Points: 3202
Well said Alan...
Although that's easier said than done for me lol... Last time I got crowded on shore was a few years ago on the dam at Jackson. I was literally having an epic day, catching like crazy. This group of 4 guys set up shop not 5 feet away from me (I got one pole with bait and casting a lipless crank on the other). They asked how the fishing was and such, being super friendly. Told them it was slow hoping that they would move on but no such luck. I then explained to them that I can't aim my casts very well and apologized if I crossed their lines... That's okay they said, till about the third time I crossed their lines, then they decided they would move down a bit :) the really funny thing was that one of them was trying to teach me how to cast straight when I was intentionally crossing them lol.
My backpack has a radio, take a look at the people, profile what you think they dont like, turn up to ear splitting, if you guess wrong turn the station until you find one they dont like. If they ask you to turn it down reply how about you move down like you should of in the first place.
Reply by: team FMFO Posted: 7/29/2012 9:13:40 AM Points: 1400
@ lewdog - you got it right man. A guy at Delaney Buttes came into our camp and started fishing in front of my tent. I just about lost it ! after asking nice and he said we don't own the lake we started throwing BIG rocks all around him and a fish he had hooked. This smuck kept talking$!* so as i was going at him to rip his head off and stuff a fish down his neck he saw the look in my eyes and got in his car ASAP and was gone. some people just don't get it and need a little wake up call. fins up.
Just start babbling incoherently at them about "The Prophecy". Sane people will get as far away as possible ASAP, especially if it is done with a maniacal grin.
i always carry large snagging hooks, "just in case" i always ask them politely to give me some space but when all else fails.. i work on my snagging cast every time they catch one..... and boaters tend to leave pretty quick when they see them flying towards their boats
Reply by: YakFisher Posted: 8/3/2012 10:45:55 AM Points: 40
I feel the spite and anger of my fellow fisher-peeps. I am not big on having intrusive neighbors (playing "music" at concert levels is another pet peeve). There are places that are not jammed with folks, even along the front range and in the metroplex. Those are the spots where you will find no one else. I would expect a place like Aurora Res to experience up-close and personal fishing. Expect everyone to be at the hottest spots, so it is a trade off killer fishing with 10,000 of the locals, or OK fishing with just you and your dog. I have repeatedly chosen the quite spots and regret the trip to the crowded spot every time... Keep your hooks sharp.
